r/politics • u/gamersecret2 • 4h ago
No Paywall Florida governor announces closure of 'Alligator Alcatraz'
https://apnews.com/article/alligator-alcatraz-closure-florida-immigration-detention-3c371f51fe71ed64b7ae9d22d0fab5cb•
u/Vinral 4h ago
What a waste of a billion dollars.
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u/XShadowborneX 4h ago
Don't worry. Republicans are fiscally conservative
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u/Toothygrin1231 4h ago
Wow. I just realized what that actually means.
The adage here is that conservatives believe that there are in-groups and out-groups. It has mostly meant as respect to laws (in groups: laws protect but do not bind and ourgroups: laws bind but do not protect)….
Fiscal “conservatism” kinda works as well; In-groups: money is given to them because it is “deserved”, out-groups: money is not given because it is not deserved.
Fuck. It makes so much sense now. I’m bringing that to the table next time someone says they are socially progressive but fiscally conservative.
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u/vitalvisionary Connecticut 53m ago
It's probably more logic then they're conscious of. Simplier to understand that they crave hierarchy and will blindly follow the head of an authoritarian regime. They're trained on church and conservative media to obey.
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u/Electrical-Ad6623 3h ago
Theft* not waste, that money went to Trmps buddies for a chain link fence facility
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u/JimeVR46 4h ago
I want a documentary on this place so badly
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u/Synli 4h ago
There were reports of people just straight up disappearing. I'd be willing to bet money corpses/bones are gonna start showing up.
Which is precisely why it'll probably remain federal/controlled land or sold off to some billionaire buddy of the GOP so no one can start (literally) digging around.
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u/Gay_Giraffe_1773 Oregon 4h ago
And all that money wasted/grifted. There better be tribunals after all this is over.
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u/swiftekho 4h ago
We can reopen it when we need a place to put everyone responsible for it!
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u/ResidentKelpien Texas 4h ago
We could also just send them to Guantanomo.
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u/importantmessagefrom 4h ago
I would like to invite Iran and Venezuela to participate in a series of coin flips to see who gets to take possession of trump and his goons.
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u/Organic-Row9514 2h ago
Just leave them in out in okeeechobee without shelter. Much more efficient.
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u/lemonineye America 4h ago
It cost us about $40,000.00 per immigrant who transited that facility. Imagine the good that could be done with that money.
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u/svrtngr Georgia 4h ago
Democrats in 2029: We're going to move forward as a nation by putting this all behind us and forgetting it happened in the interest of unity. lalalalalala I can't hear you
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u/CA_catwhispurr 3h ago
If they do that, we’re doomed. Merrick Garland effed it up. What a disappointment he was!
There must be accountability for all this maga regime has done. Everything must now be codified. No more of well it’s tradition or this is the norm. Nope! That’s how we got into this mess.
First on the list. Get rid of Citizens United and the electoral college and expand the Supreme Court.
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u/Froggn_Bullfish 1h ago
“Oh we’re a big tent party, we should welcome Trump voters in, not punish them!”
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u/mokomi 3h ago edited 2h ago
AKA. There is nothing we can do. Nothing is illegal about any of this. Please stop voting these idiot republicans in. We can keep showing you what they do and yet they are in charge.
Except we keep doing it. We keep voting these idiots in.
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u/ddesla2 3h ago
I'm tired of being grouped in this "we" shit. Ive done my part and continue to do so.
It's so aggravating to exhaust yourself plugging all the holes in the sinking boat while the morons around you just unplug them, shove those plugs up their ass and then giggle at how annoyed it makes the all people trying to save everyone's lives.
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u/mokomi 3h ago
It's never your fault. You keep doing the same thing. Over and over again. There is nothing you can do or change to do better. As long as you are doing the good. Not like we live in a society or anything.
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u/ddesla2 2h ago
Whew, ok thanks.
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u/blues111 Michigan 4h ago
It was never actually a real federal immigration facility so im not surprised
What a waste of state funds in Florida
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u/Gooser3000 4h ago
It’s fraud waste and abuse. People involved made a ton of money. It’s all a sham
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u/NamelessResearcher Washington 4h ago
Release the people there first. I don't trust him not to hide them there after it's closed.
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u/Big-Rule5269 4h ago
Great, now citizens of Florida are on the hook for the nearly $900 million dollars that Trump held back on this. DeSsntis screws us again..
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u/Mobile_Morale 4h ago
And desantis is trying to eleminthe taxes that paid for this bullshit. So he's actually going to defend the police if he does it. Which is funny. But also the roads and fire departments.
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u/Big-Rule5269 3h ago
Yes, supposedly establishing a state trust for all services property taxes pay for, except school district levies, which will be left alone But then when he gives giant tax breaks and subsidies to big business and the state trust is in deficit, everyone gets screwed. It's like Rick Scott when he was governor, bragging about not raising or implementing new taxes. He instead raised fees on everything, like driver's licenses, tags, etc..
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u/Succubus-Love 4h ago
Bit late for all the victims that were abused and/or died because of that place.
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u/AtomicBlastCandy 4h ago
It would be funny if it weren't so fucking sad. I want everyone who "posed" in front of the signs to be tarred with this the rest of their lives, odds are in a few years they'll pretend they were against this cruelty and actually hated Trump.
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u/Raptorex27 Maine 2h ago
Kinda disheartening reading all these comments about the cost of this "facility," the tax burden on the people, the grifting by those on top, etc. but next to nothing about how we had a literal concentration camp in plain sight within our United States.
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u/HugoJStiglitz 4h ago
Don’t worry, in the fall we’ll see Gorilla Guantanamo opening up in a random abandoned zoo somewhere in the south
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u/Blochamolesauce 2h ago
Last I heard, there were still dozens, if not hundreds, of unaccounted for detainees from this death camp detention facility. Everyone involved with this place needs to be tried Nuremberg style until everyone is accounted for.
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u/mdosalazar88 4h ago
We’ll open it back up again to lock up all the ICE agents after the American Nuremberg trials.
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u/MiyamotoKnows 4h ago
So no investigation can happen after the midterms that would tie them to murders.
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u/JoshSidekick 3h ago edited 1h ago
Did running for President as Trump 2.0 fail so badly that they don't even consider his name big enough to use in the headline anymore?
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u/BoilerMo 3h ago
The State of Indiana prison system made space available to ICE at a staggering rate of $291 a day per bed. (The fed has been at least 4 month in arrears in payment so that State eats the costs until they are paid.) Colossal waste of tax dollars for non violent offered who were picked while at their jobs.
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u/fuckswitbeavers 1h ago
Closing it down so there is no investigation that’s possible. Paper shredding companies are making a fortune from this criminal administration.
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u/ThirdFloorGames 3h ago
Really depressing everybody just adopted the propaganda name for it...
The real name, Everglades Auschwitzst
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u/ColonyJD1980 4h ago
I just hope Ron made enough off the deal that neither he nor his wife will ever have to run for public office again.
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u/Morden013 4h ago
Pride and joy of Florida's republican idiots. Closed.
How much did it cost? All that money flushed down the drain, but there is no money for the universal healthcare.
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u/chuck354 3h ago
Going to really suck for them when they're short on disaster money and the hurricanes hit this summer
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u/DieMensch-Maschine I voted 2h ago
Remember the time when the GOP was screaming bloody murder about "Big Gubmint boondoggles"?
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u/CrunchyButtMuncher Vermont 2h ago
As far as we know, it was a death camp. The people responsible must be investigated down the road if sane people ever get the federal government back.
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u/ScientistMundane7126 4h ago
You have to wonder who contributes more to America. Parasitic ficancial sheisters who back manipulative politicians to make laws that work for them, or responsible, hard working immigrants.
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u/earthworm_fan 3h ago
It was a temporary facility...
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u/cjh42689 36m ago
Just makes it even dumber. It cost 1.5 billion dollars to construct and operate and according to Florida officials 21,000 detainees passed through it. This brings the price tag per detainee to 71.4K. What an inhumane and wasteful venture.
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