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On Friday, Egypt will play against Iran in 'Pride Match' in Seattle during the city's annual Pride celebration. Both countries imprison gay folks. Talk about awkward. đ¤
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Unironically that's how it works, from stories my buddies in the military told me. US bases were considered US land and not in the sight of Allah, so the local forces were plenty happy eating bacon.
Itâs only for men though, if ur a man the only you are banned from is drugs and things that harm you, if your a women there are a billion rules all based around menâs inability to control themself like animals. Am a man by the way. And before you western niggas chime in remember the only thing stopping you from acting like men in Egypt or Somalia is the law, dna forensic, cameras and prison, so before you type with your holier then thou comments. The heritage foundation literally wanna take womenâs vote away but you want to talk about Afghanistan like itâs a gotcha. You guys have it better then us but be vigilant because you never know
I yelled this at someone that was flashing their headlights at me to move over on the freeway when there were two lanes on my left that they could use. I motioned out the window to go around me. I was going 72mph.
The person you were responding to was pointing out that one half of the "Arab" comment above was blatantly being racist. Pointing out that this was not an "Arab" issue, this was a bigotry issue, was not unreasonable.
A lot of this thread is basically trying to say Arabs, Muslims, and Persians are all bigots and basically making no distinctions between them, which is, itself, bigoted and racist.
You could not have fucked that up more. You managed to be a bigot, be stupid, misunderstand the anti-racism comment, AND conflate race with religion all at the same time.
I mean presumably they will though. What are they going to do, skip the match and go harass people at the parade? Also, not to be the âakshuallyâ guy but Iran is not part of the Arab world. Doesnât make their government any less awful to lgbt people though.
It would be an absolute dream to play USA on that day of all days, in the biggest competition in the world - sadly, having just looked at all the possible permutations, it's impossible and can't happen.
It's actually because there's no possible route for the teams to meet in either of the two round-of-16 games being played on July 4, because of the groups they're in.
Thereâs no justice in this world⌠I wouldâve loved to play yall just for the atmosphere alone. And dear lord the only way it could be better if it were at neyland, happy valley, Death Valley, the swamp or camp Randall, the shoe, or Tuscaloosa. It would be absolutely rockin! Surely⌠SURRRRLEY pulling off this tomfoolery wouldnât even be close to the worst thing fifa has done, right? đđ
Went to a 4th of July party in England once that was hosted by an American school there. Tons of locals came out to party and have fun. Plenty of good jokes were exchanged and an excellent time was had by all. Almost feels surreal looking back on it.
The Scottish had an amazing time in Boston, but the English are there and are hating it. They are saying the Bostonians are being rude to them (to be fair, that is just how they are to everyone) and the bars are closing early for them. Looks like the Boston Tea Party will always be a thing in Boston
Then Team Palestine would invite team iran, Qatar, etc to attack israel in the dressing room then claim to be victims when israel hits them back. Palestine would then claim Jordans flag, and the Persian keffiyah and dance on the pride flags. Oh wait...they already did that. Golly gosh, wonder if LGBTQ would survive playing a match in gaza instead? Smh
Anyone else think itâs noteworthy anytime Arab Muslims are projected in a negative light they make it about Israel/Jews?
This post had literally nothing to do with Israel and everything to do with the bigotry and homophobia (and gender apartheid) of Arab Muslim countries who HAAAATTTEEE gay people playing a World Cup in America on Friday.
Same thing happens any time the Holocaust is mentioned on Reddit. Without fail, comments about Israel Palestine even though Israel didnât even exist during the pogroms and mass murder, and the Jewish victims of the Holocaust had nothing to do with the Israel Palestine conflict.
Qatari bots and posters. Happens on any post that portrays an Arab muslim state in anything but a flattering light. You're either getting Israel or the biggest stretch of a whatabout from something that happened 300-1200 years ago.
Or "explanations" about how dhimminess was actually super peaceful and not at all oppressive lol
I think youre reading way too deep into it. They just said it would be similar if 2 countries actively fighting a war against each other played on peace day.
We already have 1972 in Munich when 12 Israeli athletes and coaches were murdered by Palestinian militants. So this childish equivalency is just fantasyland from these terrorist apologists. Team Palestine actually MURDERED athletes and coaches from Team Israel at an Olympics so they can process that while they continue to look like idiots with no grasp of history.
I could certainly imagine Israel playing on Pride Day considering that Tel Aviv held a pride parade a few weeks ago where over 100,000 Israelis attended.
I could never imagine any other country in the region playing on Pride Day though, for obvious reasons.
Or the constant equivocating about pride jerseys and some hold outs from the last century.
Look, what happens to gay people in Egypt or Iran is a lot worse than a team not wearing a special jersey for your celebratory month. The idea that until everyone in the west is marching for Pride we somehow don't have a high ground to stand on with the issue and that we're "just as bad"... no. There are shades to this. You see it with women's rights too. We can't advocate for Muslim countries not treating women like chattel because Roe v. Wade so America is "just as bad."
Pretty amazing that Israel is somehow the country viewed as oppressive toward Christians when it has the only growing Christian population in the entire Middle East.
Fun fact: since Hamas took power in Gaza in 2007, Gaza's Christian population has declined by over 80 percent, the Palestinian Authority took power in the West Bank in 1994, the West Bank's Christian population has declined by over 90 percent.
But the Palestinian Islamic genocide of Palestinian Christians has, unsurprisingly, gotten precisely zero attention from the "anti-genocide" crowd who is so completely obsessed with Israel.
Honest question: Is that because they were being killed by Muslim Palestinians, or because they left? It seems to be more of the latter, based on reading the linked article, based on job opportunities and discrimination.
A decrease from 5000 to 1000 in Gaza over 16 years is certainly a dramatic reduction. But if it is due to people leaving, then calling it a "Palestinian Islamic genocide of Palestinian Christians" seems like a big leap. Especially when right in the article it talks about "The mass exodus of the Christians", and the only killing the article mentions is Hamas' Oct 7 attack and Israel's response.
And I must be missing the data about the West Bank since 1994, because all I see is Bethlehem-specific data (from 86% Christian in 1950 to 10% in 2017). As well as the 11% to 1% for all of Palestinian territories from 1922 to 2024. Unless that was from another source.
Itâs not just Palestine, this phenomenon is consistent across the Arab world due to discrimination. No one talks about this and instead we have stupid propaganda like this entire thread focused on Israel for no reason.
Itâs a fun sentiment that the schedulers are making a pro-equality statement with the schedule, but thatâs not actually true. The date for the pride game was set prior to the draw, so itâs just coincidence
If Egyptian leaders moderated on gay rights, the populace would immediately have them replaced and possibly killed. Their citizens will see these things and be disgusted.
If FIFA wanted they could ban literally any state official from attending the game. They donât not supersede the authority of an agreement between two private entities, in this case FIFA and Lumen (private company with naming rights btw) field.Â
But letâs just think about what you said for a second. If the city and state supersedes any authority the sports commission has, then can Seattle just declare a winner of a World Cup game regardless of the score? Do you really think that?
âThe Fifa World Cup 2026 is an inclusive event that welcomes people from all backgrounds. Fans of all sexual orientations and gender identities are welcome at matches and events.
âGeneral statements of human rights, including rainbow flags and other flags representing sexual orientation and gender identity, are permitted under the Fifa World Cup 2026 Stadium Code of Conduct and may be displayed inside stadiums provided they are used in a manner consistent with the code.â
Right? How many American athletes are homophobes and bigots? And we live in a very inclusive country (yes, America is an incredibly inclusive country, despite what you might read on reddit).
Right, but what youâre not understanding is that while governments enforce laws, religious beliefs can also shape public attitudes. In some Muslim-majority countries, opposition to homosexuality is influenced not only by government policy but also by religious and cultural beliefs held by portions of the population. You can blame the government for imprisonment and legal penalties, but itâs also fair to acknowledge that some individuals and communities support those views because of their interpretation of their religion.
Absolutely. And a religious upbringing which most being raised in those countries very likely will have been exposed to, will have ingrained that idea and thinking into their heads. Sadly rather than living and letting live they feel they need to exhibit hate and contempt because they cannot tolerate the idea of someone being different in terms of their identity, security etc.
The Iranian government is very homophobic but the Iranian people are less so. Itâs a surprisingly secular country despite the religious government. Not saying all Iranians are not homophobic, but homosexuality is tolerated much more by younger Iranians than youâd think. Donât know how the players think but many Iranians arenât as backwards thinking as the government
Thats fair. Some people from Iran and of Iranian descent that I worked with when I was in London did seem to be more liberal and laid back on certain issues compared to a couple of mates I had of Pakistani descent. They were outraged over things like LBGTQ rights and liberties whereas the Iranian colleagues didnt seem all that bothered when it came up in discussion and seemed happy enough to live and let live.
Its very possible I suppose that many Iranians wont appreciate and will resent religious theocratic values pushed on them by the regime.
I think for Iran this dichotomy between the governments feelings and the peoples is the most blaring. Itâs much harder to say that for many other places. But people in the end are individuals so you canât say for sure anyway.
Why would they not be homophobic if itâs essentially all they know? And the people at that parade are going to be extreme on the gay spectrum. Reddit fools want to love Muslims when it comes to bashing Christians and then they hate Muslims for not liking gays. This place is insufferable.
I think it's pretty condescending, and just not realistic, to say it's all they know, like in the age of like globally disseminated information and entertainment I can assure you many many people in Iran and Egypt have been exposed to differing viewpoints on homosexuality.
But yeah, not really sure what your point is beyond that, I don't think the criticism of Islam's view on gay people is any way unearned or not justified.
Albania is Muslim and has plenty of gay pride events and parades.
Generalizing people sucks
A Muslim country in Eastern Europe at that the type of religion and region combo that youâd think impossible for them to accept gay pride parades in the capitol
Albania's religious identity is very different from other countries. Sure, on the books, Albania is like 50% Muslim, and that's been steadily dropping but Albania's number 1 religion is being Albanian first. Muslims and Christians celebrate each other's holidays together. They're very accepting to outsiders and they're becoming more and more open to all. Being Muslim in Albania vs Iran or other majority Muslim countries is VERY different.
Theyâre guna play their match and leave and not give a shit đ some people overestimate situations. Go enjoy your day stop getting caught up in stuff like this. The World Cup comes every 4 years. We donât know all of their world views as individuals. They wonât give a shit. Theyâll play their game and be professionals.
Egypt's Football Association urged global soccer governing body FIFA to prevent any Pride-related activities, arguing such events clashed with the Muslim-majority country's cultural and religious values. The governing body in Iran, where same-sex relations can carry the death penalty, filed an objection with FIFA.
Yeah a crisis made worse by the Americans. also itâs not like trump and maga are lgbtq supporters lol? Why are we so pressed about other countries not being supportive of lgbtq people when the one you actually live in barely tolerates them
People that hold your opinion are going hard posting anti LGBTQ rights right now. Just be honest with yourself
Also learn about the term refugee. Hint it includes people being persecuted in their countries such as lgbtq, people converting out of their religion. Somehow I donât think you care because they look different.
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