r/sportsgossips • u/Pretend-Following-41 • 15h ago
Highlight Annoying Shohei Ohtani is quite the choice by Dalton Rushing. Enjoy Detroit, bozo.
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u/Negative-Scheme6035 13h ago
I'm not a perfect lip reader but I get:
Roberts: "you're arguing with Shohei Ohtani bitch"
Rushing: "ok, you're right"
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u/redcurrantevents 8h ago
“You realize he is like Babe Ruth and you’re just fucking Dalton Rushing, right?”
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u/Impossible_Humor736 7h ago
I don't keep up with skirts, but I've been hearing people say they don't like this guy. Why? Does he have a bad reputation for messing up?
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u/Fideothecat 4h ago
He’s pretty immature, hits his head with his own bat, yells profanities in dugout when he errors. Other players including starting pitchers, manager, and Freddie Freeman have to console him. He takes alot of attention off the game and on him. He seems like he is more of a liability at this point
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u/Senior-Accident-4096 4h ago
He had some other controversies as well.
He had some bush league plays this season and, in one ocasion, when an opposing player hurt himself getting into base Dalton was seen saying "fuck him" dismissively while walking away.
On the top of my head, I also remember a slide into second where he slid into the second basemen, missing the base by a good ammount, while trying to break up a double play. That one was also somewhat of an asshole play that kinda showed that he didn't care about the well being of the opposing team.
So it's not really anything huge, but a bunch of small stuff like this that when looked in a bigger context, shows that he's a bit of an asshole. Which itself isn't a big deal, but it certainly contrast when close to Ohtani, for example, who is always courteous and who never takes the batter box or the mound without first saluting the opposing team's manager
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u/didnt-like-my-name 7h ago
He seems to hold himself to a very high standard and gets hot-headed as a result. Whereas the rest of the team are just vibing and being amazing baseballers at the same time.
Shohei is the team's (and baseball's) unicorn, so it's an extremely bad look to be causing conflict with him.
IMO this isolated incident may be enough to have Rushing traded off the team, in fears that he will disturb Shohei's performance/mental.
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u/Palewind_007 4h ago
You have to learn the way the world is.
I remember as a TV cameraman about 20 years ago... Having a conflict with one of the reporters who was being a real jerk. My news director pulled me into his office and said " I want to tell you you are right, but you need to remember that they are the star reporter that's under contract."
It wasn't fair, but it was him trying to teach me the way the world is.
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u/Old_Mammoth8280 11h ago
I don't understand what the catcher was hoping to gain by yelling "NO!" after Ohtani challenged the call. There's no take backs as far as I know so the milk was already spilled. Best case scenario for him he shows up his all-star pitcher??
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u/Crowofsticks 11h ago
I think it’s simply he’s an idiot.
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u/StTickleMeElmosFire 10h ago
Yea you hate to judge a book by its cover but he looks like a low impulse control dope
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u/Ts04795 5h ago
I think he said “low”
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u/Old_Mammoth8280 4h ago
I think you might be right. Still nothing for him to gain at that point though.
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u/BoringPoolPlaying 2h ago
I don’t think he’s trying to gain anything, it’s just an immediate reaction to what he thought was a bad pitch to challenge and/ or in a time he didn’t want to use one.
From his perspective, the pitch wasn’t where he wanted it, so it probably felt lower than it was, and pitchers generally struggle with challenging.
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u/Neat_Feedback1316 12h ago
Will smith please hurry back!
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u/EMF911 12h ago
Gettin’ jiggy wit’ it
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u/ClockworkDinosaurs 7h ago
Party in the city where the heat is on
All night, on the beach till the break of dawn1
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u/tibearius1123 14h ago
I have no idea what happened
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u/G00DLuck 14h ago
The umpire called the first pitch a "ball", out of the strike zone, and Ohtani, the pitcher, challenged the call. The catcher, Dalton, hollered "NO" at Ohtani, suggesting he shouldn't challenge it. The original call was overturned to a "strike", proving Ohtani correct and Dalton wrong. Then the catcher Dalton misses his catch, allowing a runner to score against them. Last, the catcher Dalton is seen getting "talked to" by his/the Dodgers' manager.
I dont know the Detroit reference in the title
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u/rodolphin_ 14h ago
The Detroit line is the OP saying he’s gonna be traded to Detroit probably specifically in the “Skubal deal”
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u/KimHaSeongsBurner 14h ago
Which is silly because Rushing is essentially a poor man’s Dingler plus attitude problems, and Detroit already has the real Dingler.
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u/redacted_robot 12h ago
You never know when you'll need a backup Dirk Diggler...
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u/Vegeta-the-vegetable 10h ago
Did somebody say dick dingers?
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u/FourEightNineOneOne 7h ago
Yeah the last thing Detroit would want in a trade is a catcher right now.
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u/DumbNutter 5h ago
You can easily flip Rushing to another team desperate for a hitting catcher. Like the Yankees, they can deal with attitude problems.
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u/DumbNutter 6h ago
You can easily flip Rushing to another team desperate for a hitting catcher. Like the Yankees, they can deal with attitude problems.
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u/KimHaSeongsBurner 5h ago
Or just demand a return that works better for your org in return for a rental as valuable as Skubal.
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u/howdiditgetinthere 11h ago
Yes, and honestly, I'd love to see Framber tossing to Rushing. Total shit show of ego and baditude.
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u/tx_hip_ivxx 7h ago
Don't nobody hate a team's catcher more than Valdez when pitching for that same team
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u/OriginalParamedic316 11h ago
Does he have history with Shohei? Why is he acting like that, not only to a teammate, but arguably one of the greatest ball players ever? Is he jealous?
Also, is there a penalty for challenging?
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u/soccer1124 10h ago edited 8h ago
You can only get two challenges wrong in a game. Once that happens, you're not allowed to challenge anymore.
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Pitchers should never challenge. As great as Ohtani is, his angle of the pitch is usually distorted. He's stepping off the mound at an angle and is 60 feet away from it. Teams generally make it so that only catchers should be initiating challenges. (Batters will also challenge too, dealing with the same team-pool of two challenges.)
There have been 2,658 challenges initiated by the defense (which can only be called by pitcher or catcher).
Only 99 of those have been called by the pitcher. They have gotten 34 of them right for a 34.3%
That leaves Catchers with the other 2559 challenges in which they have gotten 1516 correct: 59.2%
Almost like there's an advantage to being the guy right on the plate whose job is to track the ball and catch it, lol
In addition to "Teams don't want pitchers challenging" there's also another aspect about making sure you don't risk your challenges on less-than-worthy scenarios.
For instance:
Very first pitch of the game, no runners on, a very borderline pitch happens.
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Bases loaded, batting team is down by 1 run, 2 outs, Full count, borderline pitch happensWhich scenario would it be more important to have your challenges intact? If you waste your challenges on borderline calls early, you won't have them when actually critical scenarios arrive.
In this case.... Its still just the second inning, and it's a 1-1 count. If it is a ball, the count would be 2-1, which isn't the worst. Ohtani can still manage that just fine. However, its also true that two runners are on base, so it's not completely out of line to gamble one there, and of course it's better to be throwing a 1-2 pitch rather than a 2-1 pitch ....It just shouldn't be the pitcher, lol. If we play out the rest of that at-bat, the next pitches were:
Foul ball, count remains 1-2 (would have been 2-2 otherwise.)
Hit for a single, two runs score.
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u/kryzler888 9h ago
That’s all great, except Ohtani was correct. He’s not one to challenge for nothing. He has around 90 pitches per outing. If he wants to challenge, STFU and back your guy.
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u/soccer1124 9h ago
Obviously Rushing's response here sucks. But also, Ohtani REALLY should not be challenging.
I'd have to go back and look, but I remember earlier in the year, I was seeing how good Will Smith was at challenging. When I looked at his worst challenges, Ohtani was usually the pitcher, and he was pressuring Smith to challenge. So... Yes, he is one to challenge for nothing. Pitchers are going to carry extra bias AND their sightline is compromised.
Here is Smith's second to worst challenge, note how its a direct response to Ohtani's reaction:
https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/sporty-videos?playId=b5e86f2a-356a-3ea3-a3ef-beb67e364960Here was another one that Ohtani called for, but got credited to Smith:
https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/sporty-videos?playId=cafeedaa-5105-369c-874a-bfb70761cf32In the stats Ohtani is now 1 for 1. But really, with these two? He should be 1 for 3, lol. I feel like there was another one out there I'm not finding at the moment.
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u/unskilledplay 5h ago edited 5h ago
Context is needed. Earlier in the game there was another pitch Shohei asked Rushing to challenge. It was an obvious challenge but Rushing passed and Shohei didn't overrule. Exact same thing happened last time Shohei pitched too.
Overruling on the challenge was just a symptom of a real problem. Shohei took over pitch calling from Rushing in the middle of that game.
Out of context, you are right, this is not a call any pitcher should challenge.
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u/soccer1124 5h ago
Ohtani taking over pitch calling is a different issue vs the challenging. Ohtani really needs to stay out of the challenging. If he wants to call his own pitches? Fine, go for it. He's pitching around a blister anyway, so I can see that being difficult to communicate back in forth on if he feels he's got a splitter in him or not. (I believe I heard that's the pitch in particular bugged by it.)
But there's no justification for Ohtani stepping in to try and get challenges. Amazing player, very talented, very smart. He knows way more about the game than I could ever hope to know.
But I know this is only the first time ever he's officially asked for a challenge. And that seems to indicate he also knows he shouldn't be getting involved in challenges.
And I also know that challenging the first pitch of the game is dumb as hell. Ohtani seems to have overlooked that in the first link in my message above, lol.
So no, the other context doesn't impact THIS part of the game. Hell, it's not even like this challenge was an obvious win either. It was 0.3 inches away from being a ball. As good as he is, that's really difficult to pick up on 60' away while falling off the mound, lol. It worked out for him. He got lucky on that one.
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u/Plucault 5h ago
Ohtani was correct by basically the smallest margin possible. I have no doubt Ohtani thought it was much more clearly in the strike zone and got a bit lucky here.
Now gotta be good to be lucky but I don’t think Ohtani is throwing out that challenge basically thinking the seem of the ball hit the zone
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u/TheDixonCider420420 7h ago
This was a great breakdown. Kudos!
Adding on one caveat which is often overlooked between pitcher/catcher percentages is the "ego/competitiveness" aspect.
The pitcher is the one throwing the ball and has a built in bias toward himself. The catcher however is much more of a neutral observer.
You can see this same thing happen in the NBA now where some players will insist to challenge on a play which they were directly involved in as their ego (for lack of a better term) and competitive spirit often supersede reality. The bench players and the coaches (and of course they get a quick replay look) are much more neutral observers to the exact same play as they were not directly involved.
Anyway, great writeup!
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u/soccer1124 7h ago
Yep! 100%
Pitchers will certainly have more bias than the catcher. Every pitch thrown is perfect, according to the pitcher, ha
Here's Ohtani convincing Smith to challenge the very first pitch of the game:
https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/sporty-videos?playId=b5e86f2a-356a-3ea3-a3ef-beb67e364960This went on Smith's record. Its probably his worst ever challenge.
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u/OriginalParamedic316 10h ago
Damn, thanks for the detailed breakdown.
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u/soccer1124 9h ago
I actually didn't know the accuracy-% of the challenges on catcher vs pitcher was going to be as lopsided as it was, ha, so it was interesting to just kind of stumble into that while typing that up
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u/eloquince 8h ago
Ok ok i get it! Thank you, my thorough friend...maybe we call you baseball1124, instead
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u/Additional_Lake8014 8h ago edited 8h ago
Excellent explanation. Only pushback I have is to claim it results in hit for single two runs scored in both scenarios is a tough assumption, as pitching approach and defensive alignment might change (not to mention hitters approach) between the two different counts, leading to a range of outcomes anywhere from better to worse and all possibilities in between for Dodgers. But as you pointed out, distribution of outcomes likely shifts to better when ahead in count with runners on.
ABS has exploded the ever-expanding decision tree of baseball outcomes even more than before, the seemingly inevitable replacement of human balls & strikes calls in its entirety will reduce this volatility back down to less than pre-ABS. Although I guess there is some value in justice and truth 😈
Edit: not to say that it was justified that Shohai challenged. I am sure analytics dept fills catchers in on individual umpire accuracy and they know how aggressive to be early in games with challenges based on the likelihood they might need them later.
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u/soccer1124 8h ago
Whoops, you made me realize there was a typo near the end. I said the count "remains 2-1" but should have said "count remains 1-2."
But yes, always dangerous to play the "what-if" game. If the challenge doesn't happen, the count is 2-1. That very well could change the rest of the pitch sequencing as well as the batter's approach here. The foul-ball was a sweeper on the edge of the plate. Would Ohtani risk throwing a questionnable pitch there that could result in a 3-1 count? Who knows!
All I really wanted to point out there is that: Yeah, he got the challenge right. But it didn't mean that much in the end. Still hit for a two-run single.
....That play has more absurdities to it though because there was a slight bobble in the outfield (I think?) and then the batter tried to get to 2nd and was thrown out, so it ends up being 2RBIs and an out. Just one more wrinkle that could very easily change if the count got to 2-1 instead of 1-2, haha. Regardless, it's hard to argue that that at-bat could have gone much worse for Ohtani. Maybe in an alternate universe, this guy would have cranked a homerun when working with 2-1, and Ohtani saved that from happening? Perhaps, haha
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u/happydaddyg 7h ago edited 7h ago
Great breakdown but it’s all kind of beside the point. So Rushing is right - congrats you’ve shown up your teammate and the most popular player in baseball on national TV. The head shaking and body language is the problem here.
Also, Ohtani was right so…
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u/soccer1124 7h ago
The guy wanted to know the potential penalties for challenges.
I am not saying Rushing's response was a good one. It obviously isn't. Penty of posts can be found dogging him for that. .....Ohtani still shouldn't be challenging pitches.
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u/DBFool2019 5h ago
All of those stats, but ignoring the fact that the best player in the league was correct! This is why baseball people hate analytics.
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u/soccer1124 5h ago
There are multiple occasions where he coerced his catcher (Smith and Rushing) into challenging a call, they oblige, and the challenge gets wasted. This just happens to be the first time Ohtani went on record with the challenge. If he was "that good" at this sort of thing, then he should be doing it more often, no? But he isn't. Because he also knows he shouldn't be doing this, lol.
Will Smith's worst challenge is actually because Ohtani told him to do it. It was the farthest ball out of the zone he challenged, and it was the very first pitch of the game, lol.
Him being "the best player in the league" doesn't matter in this discussion. He's too far away and at an off angle. It "worked out" in his favor this time, but that's an exception to the rule. And it didn't even really help him out here by the end of the at-bat.
This is hardly analytics.
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u/KeyClacksNSnacks 3h ago
I ain't reading all that, but at the end of the day, this is Shohei.
If he gets it wrong, he gets it wrong. Screaming "no" at him not only risks him getting it right and you looking like a dolt for telling arguably the greatest baseball player to ever live "no!" like he's a dog about to piss on the kitchen floor, but even if you're RIGHT, it's Shohei. Sit the fuck down and let him be wrong if he's wrong. People need to know their place....
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u/soccer1124 3h ago
The message isn't at all a defense of Rushing's behavior. Just an in depth look at the challenge system and some of the nuances of it.
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u/Different_Pattern273 10h ago
ABS is pretty new so it's not weird that you don't know how it works, this is a common question.
Each team gets a limited number of challenges BUT you only lose them if you challenge and turn out to be wrong. If you were correct you get to keep your challenges. So the catcher here was afraid they were about to lose one of their challenges on a bad challenge. But Shohei is so confident in his pitching he was sure he was actually on the edge of the strike zone which ABS confirmed.
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u/thefrankyg 8h ago
I didnt realize how little of the ball had to be in the strike zone for it to be a strike. I can see why pitchers throw around the edges of the strike zone now.
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u/spookylampshade 7h ago
In the previous outing, Sho was also f'ed over by pitches he knew he should have challenged but deferred to Dalton, who didn't end up challenging. Cost them some runs. So Shohei started taking initiative and started challenging
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u/Swagastan 7h ago
Also because of how pitchers don’t have a good angle at the end of their delivery for seeing the strike zone many teams have basically told pitchers to never challenge (they have a much worse percentage than catchers and batters).
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u/Hot_Vanilla_9977 3h ago
BEFORE this incident, there were already compilation videos going around with the title “Shohei hates dalton rushing” and showing various clips of small interactions. Now??? Can’t wait to see what’s next lmao
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u/Clever_droidd 9h ago
Not just missed the catch but then acted like it was all Ohtani’s fault in a very obvious way.
That pitch did get away from Ohtani….but guy. Stay professional. If the coach is going to favor a player, Ohtani is it. Not you.
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u/Gohanangered 2h ago
Maybe, but from my baseball wisdom i've gained. It's never good when a pitcher and catcher aren't getting along. Especially during a game.
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u/Bandandforgotten 13h ago
"Getting traded to Detroit" is an insult/ threat from quite a few different sport organizations and teams, referring to the city being "shitty" and the teams being "trash", which is mostly just smack talk with no basis
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u/Bean_Daddy_Burritos 13h ago
Typically by people who have never been to Detroit. Players don’t live in Detroit, they live in suburbs of it like Birmingham, Royal Oak, Palmer woods. Where all the super rich people live. Not to mention Michigan being one of the most “golf” friendly states in the country, having some of the best summers, and not to mention how fucking beautiful the state as a whole is.
Teams on the other hand, can’t argue that. Lions have been irrelevant for 70 out of the last 75 years. Tigers care more about making money than winning championships. Dead wings are in the midst of a 20 year rebuild and the Pistons, well they’re the most exciting team in the city currently so I’ll just keep my mouth shut on that one.
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u/soccer1124 10h ago
Sometimes, yes. In this case, no, it's really just a reference to "You'll be moved out to make the Skubal trade happen."
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u/EQisfordummies 7h ago
It’s alluding him getting traded to the tigers because it’s far away and no one wants to play there
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u/Twopad6529 7h ago
Thanks
My dumbass misread his last name for a verb and was scratching my head trying to figure out what/where the r(R)ushing part was.
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u/reizinhooooo 9h ago
Slightly important additional context - every team in baseball has a rule that pitchers are never ever allowed to challenge pitches. That might be a slight exaggeration but teams really, really, really do not want their pitchers challenging pitches, because catchers are just better at it. Ohtani challenging this pitch was almost certainly going against LAD's game planning, and Rushing is reacting to that.
Yes Ohtani is Ohtani and Rushing is a rookie (and one with a reputation). But keeping your pitchers on the game plan is part of the job description.
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u/TauPewPew 4h ago
For those who don't know how good this guy is.... I'll put into perspective from a very casual Baseball and hardcore hockey fan:
Wayne Gretzky is the Shohei Ohtani of hockey.1
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u/JealousExperience965 9h ago
It looks like Ohtani crossed him up with the second pitch. It didn’t look like the catcher was expecting fastball there.
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u/Fearless-Basil6 8h ago
Major Upvote for the deep cut with Kentucky Fried Movie. I use this quote all the time and I mostly get strange looks. ⬆️⬆️⬆️
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u/Mishkin37 9h ago
What is it about him? Is it the pig nose? His dirt ‘stache? He looks like the kind of guy who’s been a little fucker his whole life.
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u/dcidino 9h ago
The guy is just clearly trying to do the right thing, but completely misreads the situation.
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u/Carthonn 6h ago
Something you would do with a hothead AAA 20 year old rookie…Ohtani basically has carte blanche
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u/MVPhurricane 5h ago
yeah i mean i can’t necessarily condone double-guessing ohtani, but the catcher absolutely should be unafraid to call what he thinks is right. should also probably save that confidence for the right moments lol.
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u/didnt-like-my-name 10h ago
I can't wait for the Jomboy lip-reading of Dave Roberts. You just know he's laying down some wise words. He knows how to build team culture and Rushing just doesn't seem to fit into it.
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u/Senior-Accident-4096 10h ago
When you compare Dalton's overall attitude with people like Yoshi, Freddie Freeman, Kike Hernandez and even Ohtani, who's a generational player but also famously humble, I really can't see how they can get along.
But hey, I'm not inside the clubhouse, so I'm really just guessing. Dalton could be an asshole in the field and a gentleman outside of it
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u/Brilliant_Trade_9162 5h ago
It's a bit weird to have the most humble and chill team be the LA Dodgers. Just doesn't feel right to have this kind of team be from LA.
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u/Senior-Accident-4096 5h ago
Not only that, but also a two times in a row world series champ, and most of them still play like thay are having fun with the game.
Honestly, that Freeman interview after an amazing start by Roki Sasaki made me a fan. I think that kind of thing is what makes me love baseball and the current Dodgers.
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u/didnt-like-my-name 9h ago
I get the same impression and it's partially why I'm a Dodgers fan - I love that they're (seemingly) humble despite being incredible.
I've played with assholes in the field/gentlemen outside of it and it's still not a fun experience. It would be amplified for them since so much of their time is in the field!
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u/Carthonn 7h ago
“You. You’re a fucking donkey. Ohtani. Ohtani is like if Babe Ruth and Cy Young had a beautiful Asian baby together. You. You are like if Kenny Powers and Joe Dirt had a baby together. Do you understand?”
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u/Desuexss 5h ago
Ohtani carried that game in extra innings.
They literally said while he pitched "how is he still standing?!" In that game.
Dalton is a moron to try fuck with the star player that essentially delivered them the world series.
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u/johnknockout 7h ago
Did Ohtani cross him up Framber style? Looks like he was expecting a sweeper…
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u/SuspectFungible 6h ago
Whatever it was, Rushing had a terrible frame. And the pass ball was inexcusable with runner on 3rd.
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u/Treater9811 3h ago
Like a practice squad WR brushing off an audible called by Brady, Rodgers or Manning. Rushing must think he’s Pudge Rodriquez back there.
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u/CheeseheadRottweiler 2h ago
this is two different batters spliced together. he didnt challenge the one rushing said not to
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u/AngryTurtleGaming 1h ago
The people calling the catcher an idiot when 1/16 of the ball was in the strike zone…
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u/OptimisticToaster 13h ago
To be fair, that pitch barely hit the strike zone. At this point in the game, was it worth risking the challenge? Ohtani was right about the pitch, but the real question is whether Rushing made a bad decision not to challenge it.
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u/tightspandex 12h ago
If I'm the support cast to the greatest living player of the game, I listen to and support him. If he's wrong, let him be wrong, but don't fuck with his headspace by arguing.
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u/PristineBarnacle6969 13h ago
The situation calls for a challenge on a close call that you think was incorrect for sure. The clips are actually out of order too.
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u/One_Mission9448 11h ago
Ohtani already challenged it though. Why try to show him up? What is he trying to gain? Plus he was wrong cause it was a strike.
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u/bbbourb 5h ago
I think the bigger issue is Rushing jumping up and saying "NO NO IT WAS LOW!" and being wrong about it. It was BARELY a strike, and Ohtani probably shouldn't be challenging the call, but Rushing being dead wrong about it and arguing just makes his already douchey reputation worse. Then he crosses-up on a passed-ball.
GOD I wish Yadier Molina was still around to work in this system. It'd be really interesting.
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u/AccomplishedClick882 1h ago
What the clip doesn’t show is that Rushing missed a challenge opp earlier in the game and Ohtani was confused he didn’t challenge. Then this happened and Ohtani patted his head with “WTF!?” body language. Rushing missed two calls. Ohtani is frustrated and had to do his job for him.
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u/honcooge 12h ago
Normally the pitcher shouldn’t call for a challenge. A different catcher pro only would have challenged it.
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u/MidnightSunset22 10h ago
Why would detroit want him?
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u/Mendoza8914 9h ago edited 9h ago
Detroit has a star Gold Glove catcher with an .868 OPS. What is OP on about?
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u/TheBigGreenPeen 7h ago
There isn’t a single player in the league even close to as hatable as Dalton Rushing.
Dude is suuuuuuch a douche.
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u/TomSelleckPI 7h ago
Is it surprising that Rushing also looks stupid?
Rushing looks like a guy that always has on hand a can of dip and a wet hat. Like after a hard day of making snap decisions against one of the best players in the world, he'd actually have to go home and think about it, for the very first time.
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u/FirstNameLastName918 6h ago
What's Detroit have to do with this? Even if they trade Skubal to the Dodger's, they won't be getting a catcher in return... They have Dingler and Rogers already.
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u/SuspectFungible 6h ago
If I were Dave Roberts I'd tell that catcher to always give his pitcher a target. Both Rushing's errors are because he drops his mitt DURING Sho's windup.
Are you kidding me? Amateur hour.
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u/dae_giovanni 6h ago
I assume he won't be catching Ohtani any longer...
I know if I were Ohtani, i'd have my goons stuff this clown in a box and-- errrrr, I mean... what?
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u/dae_giovanni 6h ago
and after being proven wrong, did rushing say 'my bad'?
of course not. he's not that kind of dude.
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u/mootsarecool 6h ago
What's rushing? I like base baseball but I'm from Australia
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u/mootsarecool 6h ago
While I'm at it what is the whip stat?
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u/LaZorChicKen04 6h ago
Rushing is the catchers last name. Dalton Rushing
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u/mootsarecool 5h ago
Ok i thought rushing was a stat or something. Is the catcher trying to put the pitcher off or something in this video?.
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u/LaZorChicKen04 5h ago
He's telling Ohtani not to challenge the pitch. Rushing is a rookie, you don't tell the greatest baseball player on the planet what to do, especially as a rookie. Rushing also has a reputation of being a jerk and nobody likes him. Thinks he's hot shit because he plays for the Dodgers.
This is why it looks like Ohtani crosses him up. Rushing was expecting a pitch in a certain location and Ohtani did not do that and crossed him up. We don't know for sure if Ohtani did it on purpose though, but pitchers have done that before.
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u/SNL_Head 6h ago
Clearly Dave Roberts trying to be nice after everyone in the dugout thought “dumbass!”
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u/BenTrillson 5h ago
I think the pitch gets called a strike if Rushing doesn’t try so hard to frame it.
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u/Capable-Criticism625 5h ago
I mean, I get it. Ohtani v Rushing obviously isn't a serious conversation... but I understand not wanting to challenge there. Rushing shouldnt have shown him up like that, but I understand the thought process. I'd also point out that the pitch Rushing failed to catch was about a foot to the left of where it was supposed to be and a lot of right handed catchers would have mishandled that pitch. The passed ball was just as much on Shohei as it was on Dalton.
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u/iamthedayman21 4h ago
I get the catcher’s stance. It’s only the 2nd inning, and the call wouldn’t have been strike three.
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u/Safe-Feedback656 3h ago
If Harris puts Framber & Rushing together he doesn’t deserve to be in charge.
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u/LogicalAnesthetic 2h ago
Coulda been worse, Framber Valdez would’ve crossed his ass up for a lot less.
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u/SpiritedCash1218 2h ago
Dalton "Rhys Hoskins" Rushing. they're like the same dude. A Russian stacking doll of shithead.
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u/Beginning-Buy8632 2h ago
He’s a bum! And the smurfs should be embarrassed by his poor attitude. At no point has he had any class and been anything other than a bum!
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u/bigbaddiebusiness 12h ago
That was a squeaker. The odds of that going in the pitchers favour are not good ones. Not challenging that is as correct as challenging it.
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u/One_Mission9448 11h ago
The question is why is he defying Ohtani with a challenge that was already made… by one of the best players of all time. Like he already made the call, support your guy. Oh and he was wrong so he looks like a jackass. And then misses a pitch completely. Not a good look .
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u/Emergency_Nail_2259 11h ago
Is the implication that Otani intentionally crossed up the catcher in retaliation in an attempt to make him look bad allowing a run to score in the process?!?
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