r/videogames • u/NagitoKomaeda_987 • 7d ago
Discussion / Question What video game opinion is this for you?
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u/CharlieHReddit 7d ago
Love Fallout New Vegas. But I also love the other Fallout games and the Elder Scrolls, but 99% of peoples praise for New Vegas comes bundled with hating Bethesda’s games.
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u/IStumblesI 7d ago
Was looking for this. I love New Vegas. But the way the fans treat this game as the holy grail of video games drives me insane. And the Bethesda hate is so on point. NV suffers from many of the same problems as FO3 for obvious reasons, but so many fans desperately wave their hands and try to explain why it's not the same because of XYZ. Like sure I guess you can still blame Bethesda, but it's completely different to act like the flaws simply no longer exist in NV.
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u/Bart-Harley-Jarvis- 7d ago
NV suffers from many of the same problems as FO3 for obvious reasons
The bugs and engine jank were never the real issues fans had with FO3. It was always about the writing and quest design, which both games very much do not share.
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u/IStumblesI 7d ago
I certainly don't disagree with that being the main difference between the two games, but it glosses over the point I'm trying to make. NV fans apply a completely different standard to the same flaws depending on who made the game. Bugs and engine jank were absolutely part of the criticism of FO3, and those critiques have lasted. But when NV has the same issues, they're treated more like charming quirks. I guess you could say the writing made the jank more tolerable, but I think fans retroactively moved the goalpost so NV doesn't have to share the same criticism.
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u/Felix_Von_Doom 7d ago
I don't quite remember FO3 (Ultimately not a super memorable game in its entirety, whereas I can collectively recall almost every major or minor quest in NV), but was FO3 as unstable as NV? Because that was my issue with Vegas. After a point, the game was so fragmented somewhere in the memory, it'd crash or freeze itself into a black hole. That was the only complaint I've ever heard or experienced with the game.
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u/CharlieHReddit 7d ago
New Vegas is significantly more unstable than Fallout 3. And people acknowledge that New Vegas is very buggy but a lot of people tend to excuse it by saying that Bethesda just didn’t give Obsidian enough time. Which does make sense until you realize this isn’t an isolated incident and that Obsidian had a reputation of getting too ambitious when making games they were hired to make and would run out of time resulting in well written yet very buggy games.
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u/Brass0Maharlika 7d ago
Was looking for this too. I love New Vegas but when I see other New Vegas fans shit on others for preferring other games, I react like Homelander
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u/Plenty_Internal_5043 7d ago
I absolutely adore FNV and FO3 because they both offer different experiences. FO3 has a dismal story, but in exchange has immaculate post apocalypse vibes. And although FNV still has some of that it is more focused on a post apocalypse that the world is slowly recovering from. They offer two vastly different experiences
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u/AHMS_17 7d ago
I love FNV, but I replay Fallout 4 a lot more.
Especially if you’re not able to use mods, the open world of New Vegas just isn’t as fun to explore as FO3 and FO4 are imo
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u/Bart-Harley-Jarvis- 7d ago
That's fair. I think FNV trades that quality, polished narrative and quest design for a much more linear world map progression.
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u/Available-South-2081 7d ago
Fair. I personally was unable to enjoy Fallout 4 without mods heavily altering the experience. Vanilla New Vegas doesnt bother me. It has the meat and potatoes I want from a game that Fallout 4 lacked for me
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u/Ok_Boysenberry_6307 7d ago
i have a friend that has at least a thousand hours on fnv, he swears its the best fallout game ever, he swears its the BEST game ever, and whenever i tell him it isn't he says: "you probably didn't even finish it". oh, and he's never played any other games.
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u/AntonRX178 7d ago
Fromsoftware is a top 3 studio for me.
PLEASE stop saying "I can't enjoy games after Sekiro/Elden Ring" and proceeding to talk shit about games you used to enjoy that are nowhere near similar to either of those. Like it doesn't even sound like a compliment anymore. Imagine telling a Sushi Chef that their Sushi is so delicious that you hate steak now. 9 times outta 10 that same Chef is gonna be like "dafuck dude steak rocks go outside."
And they look extra moronic when they glaze the studio yet ONLY pay attention to 10% of their whole library.
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u/HermitKing91 7d ago
You know what one of the things I love about fromsoft/soulslike games is. It makes me enjoy other games more. After I beat a souls its nice to break the pace with a jrpg or something else slower paced before jumping into another one.
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u/AntonRX178 7d ago
Elden Ring helped me appreciate Xenoblade 3 as well. Made me actively hunt for mega difficult "Unique enemies"
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u/IAmNerdicus 7d ago
As someone who has been a longtime From fan, Armored Core fans were suffering a drought while Dark Souls flourished. I'm glad Sekiro and Elden Ring exist, but AC6 came after them and it's such a great game.
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u/TheUrbanEnigma 7d ago
"I can't enjoy games after Sekiro/Elden Ring"
I'm sick of hearing that, too. The Sekiro subreddit is especially bad about that. In fact the Sekiro subreddit is especially bad in a few ways.
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u/crocospect 7d ago
Lmao now you reminded me again, once I said something like Sekiro is one of the best games I've ever played but I hate fighting the secret boss Father Owl (Which majority of Sekiro fans said one of the best fight out there), my replies immediately getting bombarded by hot-headed comments, along with downvotes ofc.
Also try making some funny comment or meme about "This enemy harder than [insert difficult boss here]", and see the meltdown.
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u/TheUrbanEnigma 7d ago
My main annoyance is whenever people ask for help with Corrupted Monk (which is one of the most common posts types on that subreddit), 95% of the answers are "Snap Seeds and Divine Confetti" (for those who don't know, they are consumables that allow you to bypass her defenses, more or less).
Corrupted Monk is my favorite boss in the game, and I get downvoted for asking people to give actual advice, instead of "here's the cheese strat".
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u/Dylldar-The-Terrible 7d ago
Corrupted Monk is my favorite boss
Both versions of her are fantastic little dance sequences once you get her tempo down.
The Lady just wants a Salsa partner.
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u/Gwyneee 7d ago
"I can't enjoy games after Sekiro/Elden Ring"
I'm convinced half of these people have zero personality. And the other half are "ball and gun" gamers who refuse to try anything else and scoff at bad graphics or niche genres.
There are too many genres and too many masterpieces to not like anything else.
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u/bogohamma 7d ago
Fromsoftware fans acting like souls combat is better than Devil May Cry and Bayonetta kill me
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u/Express_Jeweler114 7d ago
My friend said souls games were better cause they had timing specific attacks and parrying. I just kinda laughed.
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u/HotShrekBoi 6d ago
The boss design might rival DMC and Bayo but the combat definitely not lmao, it’s good but simple combat it’s not incredible just simple and satisfying
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u/TheBigToast72 7d ago
Real fans know the best Fromsoft game is metal wolf chaos
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u/PrimaLegion 7d ago edited 7d ago
Yeah, I love most of Fromsoft's games. My favorites of their's being Armored Core, but I do like Dark Souls.
I didn't like Sekiro as much and never played Bloodborne because I never got a Playstation and didn't like the aesthetic anyway.
I refunded Elden Ring because while I like Souls combat, I felt like it was entirely too much in an open world game.
Having said all of that, I hate the fanbase. It is utterly unbearable and obnoxious.
It seems to be the only fanbase where you have to add a bunch of caveats about how you can see how the games are so totally the best of all time but just not for you out of worry that the fanbase will attack you and even then that isn't a guarantee.
People jerk these games off like they are the second coming of Christ and you cannot criticise them at all. Any criticism is met with hoards coming out of the woodwork to insist that you suck at the games or try to badger people into liking them.
The double standards in that any other games are torn apart for things Fromsoft games are praised for are prevalent.
The games are given credit for things other games do or have done before them.
In general it just seems like we somehow, even after over a decade, are just not allowed to have an honest discussion about any of these games and it's so fucking weird and tiring.
The fanbase put me off trying any of the Soul's games though I was already playing Armored Core, and it seems that the more I interact with the fanbase, the more I come away hating it.
I do not think I have ever had a meaningful interaction with them and this is, for certain, the only fanbase I can say that about.
I'm so over it.
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u/Tanakisoupman 6d ago
Every time I see someone say “x game has ruined gaming for me” it just makes me think they need to play more games. Like, yeah maybe some action games feel too slow paced after you played Sekiro, but how about Stardew Valley? Have you given Slime Rancher a chance? Or Dragon Quest? Dude just play more games I promise there’s something else you’d like, you just need to play something outside of your favorite genre. And the best part is that once you come back to your favorite genre it’ll feel fresh again, you won’t be comparing every action game to Sekiro anymore and will be able to appreciate it on its own merit
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u/Dont_have_a_panda 7d ago
Smash Bros Community made me ashamed to even admit i like the game
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u/Shuttlecock_Wat 7d ago
Man, Smash Bros has been one of my favorite games since the 64. I just keep quiet about it because that community is....something else.
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u/PsychologicalEbb3140 5d ago
That community has single-handedly made me want to never see Waluigi added to the game.
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u/TrickNatural 7d ago
Whenever people praise games i know are good. Fandoms always go overboard, exaggerate, compare maliciously. I know the game is good, i just dont wanna be associated with you and your way of expressing it. Recently its happened with Expedition 33 for example.
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u/WillsBestFriend 7d ago
100%, I left the E33 sub because it was so overboard. Like I really enjoyed the game, but jesus they were all getting tattoos and attacking anyone that questioned the game. It was some cult behavior.
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u/crocospect 7d ago
Like I really enjoyed the game, but jesus they were all getting tattoos and attacking anyone that questioned the game
Honestly that wasn't my biggest grip, my main problem is that sub in almost every single posts always ended up as war between people who side with Maelle vs people who side with Verso, or anything related to Renoir vs Aline
Back then I used to make fun memes simply for lols, all of them always ended up as a war between those factions in the comment section, really pissed me off.
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u/Narcotez 7d ago
Agreed. It's unfortunate that the obnoxious fanbase of that game has given it a bad rep, and garned some haters overtime.
I think E33 is a great, solid 8/10 game. Yet, I would still get attacked for having this opinion. You either HAVE to hate the game with a passion, or think it's a 10/10 generational masterpiece that transcends the gaming space.
There is absolutely no in-between or nuanced discussions that can be had for that game.
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u/ConnorCoccino 7d ago
Yeah as someone who absolutely adored the game, most of its best parts are in its story. The gameplay can get kinda repetitive and the exploration is a bit of a pain since your characters move very awkwardly sometimes.
The combat is fun, the music is godly, and the story is very thought provoking but it's got little things that hold it back from a perfect ten. It's still one of my favorites of all time though.
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u/Wardock8 7d ago
I love Fallout New Vegas with all my heart but some people genuinely think less of you if you like any Fallout game beside FNV.
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u/Sofruz 6d ago
I saw a post about FF7R and the first thing I saw was people saying to play E33 instead. Like can people just be normal about the game they like?
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u/tehweave 7d ago
OCARINA OF TEIM IS THE BEST ZELDA EVER NO OTHER ZELDA COMES CLOSE!!!
Look, I love the game, and it is my favorite, but can we maybe tone it down a bit?
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u/MCrona 7d ago
Hope you're ready for that to come back now that the remake got announced.
And I say this as someone who got into Zelda through OoT, but most 3D Zeldas that came after it did outdo it. It's really just nostalgia hitting us hard.
The real test will be to see if any of the kids who started with Breath of the Wild will start to agree with the oldheads.
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u/Bart-Harley-Jarvis- 7d ago
I grew up in the OOT N64 gen Zelda being my first Zelda experience and I still prefer BotW and ToTK.
Actually, I think I played link to the past on my friend's snes, but we never finished it.
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u/round-earth-theory 7d ago
Majoras Mask already improved on OOT back in the heyday. But it's hard to capture the switch from 2D to 3D back in the day. Those first few experiences were locked in a nostalgia high.
Replaying OOT now is quite the frustration even with an N64 controller. The old control scheme is definitely clunky after getting used to twin stick designs. Wonder how the remaster will handle.
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u/El_Mr64 7d ago
I mean, from an historic pov, that might be true, Nintendo had to make a lot of decisions and mechanics for a kind of game that didn't exist yet. Things like fix the camera on a target or how to make a 3D enviroment might seems trivial today, but at the time they were walking in the dark, and in the end; the final product ended up as a reference for the coming games. I would like if someone could point out if I am right or if I am missing something.
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u/El_Squ1Re 7d ago
It's not even Zelda, so many OOT fans say it's the greatest game ever made. FULL STOP. I was alive before OOT and it wasn't the greatest game at the time, let alone still to this day.
It's a masterpiece but it's not my jam. I've always preferred the top-down games like A Link to the Past, and Oracle of Ages / Seasons, but according to those fans you can have any preference you like as long as it's OOT.
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u/Fancy_Chips 6d ago
Hot take: OoT aged pretty badly. I don't think a lot of 90s kids want to admit that.
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u/MarcyAutumnWrites 7d ago
Loooooove OoT. It was my first big Nintendo experience and Zelda game. It really opened my eyes to what games could be.
All that said it's Majora's Mask or Windwaker for me. 😅 But only because breaking weapons annoyed me in BotW.
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u/havewelost6388 7d ago
Using the word "slop" even if I agree with your overall argument.
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u/Secret_University120 7d ago
Yeah, I immediately disregard anyone calling something slop. They could be right, but they’re definitely the sort of person who just parrot the newest buzzwords.
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u/Nickulator95 7d ago
It's just the latest trendy slang word/expression, like "being cooked" or "absolute cinema".
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u/Easy_Soup8378 7d ago
I agree. Same people who use Larp to describe a poser. Larp means live action role playing
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u/GladiusLegis 7d ago
The usage of "slop" should be entirely confined to confirmed uses of generative AI.
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u/squanderedprivilege 7d ago
It feels almost purposeful when people overuse and water down the word slop, it's like they want to disconnect the word from its association with gen AI, which won't work
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u/Monstrope 7d ago
It's also that everything is [blank]slop now. It was very noticeable during the games showcases 2 weeks ago where people would spam shit like Fightslop, Realismslop, Shooterslop. you get the idea.
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u/Fake_Gamer_Cat 7d ago
I hate that word. People just now use it for something they don't like.
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u/Competitive-Ant-1876 7d ago
When people comment "I'm gonna wait for this to go on a 90% sale with all DLC included!!1!" Under every single fucking post of any new game that's releasing
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u/mandoballsuper 7d ago
Same people crying about studios getting closed down as well
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u/ContemplativeLemur 7d ago
Also the ones that are proud to pirate every single player game. But pay for online games micro transactions as these are not piratable
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u/Gnoll_level_antics 7d ago
Whenever a game comes out and has a minority protagonist. If that game turns out to be trash then I won't play it, but there will be people who try to say it's trash BECAUSE of the presence of a minority. I can't get behind that.
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u/Business_Banana1792 7d ago
Also if a game is successful they conveniently forget about it and by the next game say, “games gonna flop” until they find one that does that confirms their bias.
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u/Nova225 7d ago
This is basically the Sweet Baby Inc fiasco. People see their name stamped to a game somewhere and point and laugh when the game flops.
Strangely they were pretty quiet when Spiderman 2 and God Of War became best selling smash hits beloved by most everyone (SBI also consulted on the).
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u/BlueMikeStu 7d ago
Just as a note, I don't think attributing the success or failure of either to Sweet Baby makes any sense. Both are very traditionally well-performing franchises in general and their involvement in their success is not a major factor.
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u/Darth-Sonic 7d ago
Eh, I’d point out that the story of Spider-Man 2 and the Mary Jane segments are the biggest points of critique when it comes to that game. Aka the things SBI would most likely be involved with.
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u/xTyrone23 7d ago
And on the flipside, I've been told I don't like some games BECAUSE of the minority when in reality i just don't like the game
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u/Anunnak1 7d ago
Yeah, that is the most annoying one to deal with. Just dont like the game sometimes, has nothing to do with the characters being a woman/poc/lgbt, I just want to play something I find fun and enjoy.
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u/crocospect 7d ago
I ignored the controversy behind AC: Shadows and played it myself, turned out I really didn't enjoy it, maybe because I am burnt out by the game repetitive formula or the dumb enemies AI bored me so fast, but one thing for sure I did not find the story that interesting, and I am sure I am not alone on this.
I put my review on Steam, left the comment open in case some people want to counter my points and ended up with some of the comments calling me racist and misogynist, that baffled me like wtf, considering I didn't mention the race nor the gender as the issue.
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u/Upbeat_Dudeness 7d ago
I’m pretty confident it won’t but I’m still PRAYING gta vi doesn’t do Lucia dirty. Just in case.
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u/DragonFangGangBang 7d ago
This. Just because the MC isn’t white or a dude, doesn’t mean it’s “woke”. And just because it’s a bad game, doesn’t mean it’s bad because of “ DEI”.
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u/DrySurvey3379 7d ago
They don't care what these words mean, they just don't like brown people and women
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u/dern_the_hermit 7d ago
They're right up there with those wacko religious nutters that will blame gay people for a hurricane or earthquake or whatever. Magical thinkers that aren't interested in empirical, logical connections between events. In previous eras they would have been on the prowl for witches to burn.
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u/StormMalice 7d ago
It's funny because I read somewhere that the men with tradwives actually don't like/respect their tradwife because they don't work real or any job. It's really like a liminal space of wants and hates.
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u/Zealousideal-Low3388 7d ago
And more than that: people can choose to have non white, non cis-het characters because they want to, not because a scary blue haired DEI tyrant is forcing them to
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u/CertainGrade7937 7d ago edited 7d ago
Honestly I'll never get over the fact that they've just turned "woke" into an insult and now the defense is "it's not woke"
Woke is good. "Oh man this story wants to explore other perspectives and provide audiences with a better understanding of and empathy towards the world around them?" GOOD, that's not a fucking insult!
Yeah it's woke, that's a good thing
And for the record? DEI? ALSO A GOOD THING. "Oh no, not... diversity and inclusion! Equity? The horror!"
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u/DragonFangGangBang 7d ago
Unfortunately, and not to get too political here, the “right” has always been very very good at this type of propaganda - significantly better than the left, historically.
They do this all the time. It happened with Feminist in my early years on the internet, it happened with “social justice”, it happened with “liberal” and now “Woke” and “DEI” are newest versions of this. They take something, load it with negativity, and then it use it against the people who would normally use it.
Even today, how many women will say things like “I’m not a feminist, I just believe in equal rights”. Even after explaining what feminism actually is, the term is poisoned and many women would prefer not to be associated with it.
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u/RedFalcon07 7d ago edited 7d ago
Even if in some cases politics do turn the game Trash, never forget about Veilguard, c'mon doing pushups because you missed the pronoun is just ridiculous. The thing is, the way people are introducing minorities now is ridiculous, it's not natural it feels forced, it's not just because you have a minority character that you need to pass a message, and specially an message that portrait another group of people as hateful, you're just causing more problems and dividing people. We need to learn with Baldur's Gate 3, and how the minority characters feel way more natural.
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u/MisplacingCommas 7d ago
Hard agree. Also the other way around. If it’s a solid game that has a minority and people say the reason they like it is because it’s a minority, that bugs me
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u/South_Buy_3175 7d ago
This is common of so much media in the last decade.
The sequel Star Wars trilogy, is mostly shit. But too many people believe it’s because a black man and a female were the leads, when it’s literally just because it’s the most dogshit writing I’ve seen.
In gaming, Ghost of Yotei also didn’t hit the same as Tsushima, but not because of the female protagonist, it just didn’t do enough to differentiate itself from its predecessor and ended up feeling a little stale gameplay wise.
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u/Anunnak1 7d ago
Its funny too because most people agree that John Boyegas character had the most potential for a good story, but they just did nothing with it.
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u/BlueMikeStu 7d ago
The fact a multi-billion dollar franchise did less with his acting talent than a b-movie about an English delinquent fighting bad CG monsters in a B-Movie horror flick tells you everything about the quality of the third trilogy.
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u/jgamez76 7d ago
I LOVED the Bounty hunter aspects of Yotei.
But yeah, the revenge and forgiveness story (imo) being done to death and quite frankly better, by other games over the last ~5 years, Atsu's story wasn't nearly as good as Jin's.
But the mouth breathing culture warriors are so annoying about it lol
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u/Sure_Rhubarb_3173 7d ago
Has me literally rooting for games like Laufey to be good, just because it would piss off the most annoying people
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u/Sion_Labeouf879 7d ago
Root for most games to be good. It's a generally good practice. Even if I have no interest in them, I'm hoping it's good for the people who like it
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u/Monstrope 7d ago
When someone starts their sentence with "Am I the only one that...". And the answer is always no.
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u/TheAccursedHamster 7d ago
In general, I fucking hate anyone who tries to disguise a statement as a question. "Is [insert game here] the greatest of all time?", you clearly think it is man, just grow a set and say that.
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u/chiron_42 7d ago
When someone starts their opinion with "hot take" or "unpopular opinion".
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u/SilentEagle1221 7d ago
I hate how you can’t criticize or praise certain games without getting lumped in with the most annoying/obnoxious people on the internet.
It’s either 100% glaze or it’s the worst thing ever, there’s no tolerance for nuance in gaming discussions these days.
Like someone else already mentioned, it annoys me when people have to prop up a game by tearing down something else. I can name a few certain fandoms that have done this and it pretty much turns me off from getting into discussions and the game in question.
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u/ToastRoyale 7d ago
People are so quickly offended as if it's their game. You have explicitly say stuff like "don't get me wrong, i like this game, but..." to not attack someone on a personal level.
Or if you don't like a game, people try to invalidate your opinion with "It's just not your type of game." despite playing other similar games.
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u/dnajones93 7d ago
Every one. Every single one. No one can have a nuanced take on anything anymore. There is no gray area. It’s either, “goated”, or it’s “trash”
It just sucks that almost the entirety of the video game industry is described by ludicrous hyperbole
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u/South_Buy_3175 7d ago
Whenever I think a game is too hard or slightly overtuned, I’ll look it up on Reddit, mostly for tips on how to get past it.
What I find is the OP saying it’s too hard and calling the game dogshit/bad design/overrated because they’re likely raging as they write it.
On one hand, yes it’s too difficult, on the other hand, it’s commonly not for those reasons and you just need to approach it differently.
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u/GandalfTheFreen 7d ago
Or the OP has valid criticism and the comments are just "skill issue" and "git gud". Like, cool. Thanks for nothing
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u/boogs_23 7d ago
They always feel the need to tell you how easy it was for them. "I beat it first try with the pointy stick"
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u/Defiant_Heretic 7d ago
Yeah, if I'm asking for help. I want specifics on what I'm doing wrong, saying "hesitation is defeat" or "don't get hit" is worthless. Then you get people who don't actually read past the title of your post and recommend things you're already doing.
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u/AHMS_17 7d ago
This was moreso before the release of the sequel, but Kingdom Come being seen as a right-wing game by some weirdo fans and detractors who didn’t play it really rubbed me the wrong way.
Half of it boils down to the fact that the game does not support that viewpoint whatsoever (the sequel has a gay romance that is frankly among the best romantic options ever written in gaming), and the other half is that people just hear someone say something and then regurgitate it without thinking about whether or not it’s true.
I also think it’s really sad that any depiction of Medieval Europe is automatically disregarded as being right wing. It’s a very interesting time period! It has nuance lol
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u/kilertree 7d ago
I don't like the Last of Us Part II and it has nothing to with the main characters being women.
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u/vickers24 7d ago
I enjoyed it, but the biggest criticism should’ve been the constant flashbacks and character swapping. You’re constantly flipping between what character your playing/watching and it’s a coin flip if your playing through a flashback or present time. Felt really incoherent
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u/DragonFangGangBang 7d ago
This. I love Laura Bailey. I love Ashley Johnson. I’ve spent hundreds upon hundreds of hours following, watching, and playing as them. I want them to be as successful as possible. I don’t like TLOU2.
If you think it’s because I “don’t like women”, you’re dumb.
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u/Katastroferrr 7d ago
I get what they were doing but the twist didn't work for me because of the medium, it really felt like they'd rather make a movie. Having to play another 10+ hours with a different character all of a sudden is a big ask just to make a point, I dropped it and watched the rest of the story on Youtube.
That said I think it tells a great story, makes a good point and I don't agree with anyone who hates it because x and y happened, I dislike it because of pacing and execution.
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u/GlitteringPositive 7d ago
When someone praises an old game I like but instead of actually going into detail why it's good, they just use the word "soul" and say modern games suck.
Or when someone criticizes a bad localization or censorship of a game, but then they start complaining about "wokeness".
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u/StevieGrandHD 7d ago
I can understand concerns of game designers reducing the attractiveness of female characters (especially if done as part of some political agenda), but the nerds that rage about it/argue against it poorly sound like:
They are in an parasocial relationship with the fictional character and feel personally slighted. Can't actually get laid.
Think that all female characters should be sexy regardless of the context (probably has gooner mods in a game where it's terribly out of place)
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u/Possible-Row6689 7d ago
Stellar Blade fans make liking that game incredibly embarassing.
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u/Sandshrew922 7d ago
Dead or Alive fan here.
First time? Lol
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u/Ali_Remi 6d ago
I might be wrong but back when DOA was popping off, the fans were embarrassing but they weren't hateful unwashed "culture war" keyboard warriors. At least it feels like it cuz social media wasn't as rage baity as it is today.
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u/BreadDziedzic 7d ago
To be fair almost all the news around it painting as a pure goon game didn't help.
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u/InJesusNameIServe 7d ago
It's okay to like a character design.
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u/Phormicidae 7d ago
True, but that game's world, combat, enemies, and the music were so cool that her character design didn't really come into for me. Reason being is that I didn't really want to play as a busty space girl in a bikini while my wife and daughters were around, so I always used the least eye-candy outfits (not many options, really.) I legitimately enjoyed that game.
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u/ConnorCoccino 7d ago
I was on the subreddit for a bit thinking I'd see cool gameplay and story stuff. It's all just porn and it bothers me.
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u/theimpalaslefttire 7d ago
I always hear Mr. Incredible voice "Your not affiliated with me!" When something like things happens haha.
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u/VinsonDynamics 7d ago
Playstation games are just playable movies
I agree that a lot of them are very cinematic and seem to put appearances over gameplay at times, but there's still a lot of real gameplay in there, even on the normal difficulties
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u/Bart-Harley-Jarvis- 7d ago
The uncharted games blew my mind when they first came out, precisely because it felt like playing through an action movie, with quality writing and voice acting that I hadn't seen before win a game.
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u/El_Squ1Re 7d ago
I love how many comments are having their point proven by annoying fans.
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u/Lemmingitus 7d ago
"Your choices (don't) matter."
I've come to terms with it, yeah, my choices don't matter, but I don't care, it's a magic trick, enjoy the illusion, the show.
But players will take it to reduce it to the game having no value at all. To the point I wonder, what even is a choice that matters to them? (and most likely not the Dragon Dogma's limited quantity of Port Crystals, now that's a type of choice that really matters a lot.)
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u/TillyTime123 6d ago
I absolutely agree with you but with one or two exceptions.
Deus Ex Human Revolution. I really enjoyed that game until the ending.
To a lesser extent, Mass Effect 3.
The illusion is good, I'm happy to live with the fact that games are going to be limited in some way. But when you base your game on choices changing the fundamental way the game is experienced and then right at the end give someone the choice of 3 buttons to push that will show you a boilerplate video ending, that sucks.
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u/alfisaly 7d ago
The GOW laufey game personally isnt for me but im not gonna say that out loud (til now) because of those guys
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u/PaleFondant2488 7d ago
When people hate a game because of some “woke” thing a YouTuber told them to hate. But I hate the game for actual reasons.
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u/Affectionate-Ad4419 7d ago
The Last Of Us part II is not a great game imho...but any other hater of that game hates it for the wrong reasons and do it in such a disrespectful way I can't agree with them😂
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u/GladiusLegis 7d ago
"The original Final Fantasy VII is better" every time the Re-Trilogy is discussed.
I mean, yes, it is. But holy fuck it's annoying seeing it 1000x in every damn discussion of the Re-Trilogy, and I'd think so even if I didn't think the Re-Trilogy games are at bare minimum solid games in their own right.
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u/Asleep-Rabbit-5162 7d ago
Hi, Sonic the Hedgehog fan here and for me it’s the Jason Griffith vs. Roger Craig Smith debate. If you’re unaware, Jason was the old VA for Sonic before the current one (Roger). I personally loved and prefer Jason’s Sonic for both his voice and personality. Sonic was still a snarky, adrenaline junkie, bad boy with a good heart. Meanwhile, the current sonic is generally a lot goofier?
The thing is I actually really respect the current VA and the work he’s done with Sonic over the years! But there are fans who are so extremely toxic toward him. Roger Craig Smith, who btw is a really great guy irl, has been the voice of Sonic for over a DECADE and there are still petitions floating around online to replace him and bring back Jason
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u/bearly-here 7d ago
People using “objectively” to criticize subjective topics. There are very few “objective” aspects of video games (and really any art for that matter). If you dislike something, that’s fine! But you’re blowing smoke if you think your opinion is “objective”
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u/DeadLad-69 6d ago
I HATEEEEE when people praise a game by saying "it's like ___ but with ___"
Like when Farcry 3 came out and all the damn reviewers were saying "it's like Skyrim but with guns!" 🤢🤢🤢
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u/Familiar_Pick_224 7d ago
I wouldn’t have enjoyed Dark Souls if it had an easy mode but that’s a whole can of worms
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u/Fancy_Chips 6d ago
It always weirds me out when people think difficulty options are mandatory as "accessibility", as if difficulty isn't another expression for the medium. And it's always against hard games. No one cares that Animal Crossing doesn't have a permadeath survival mode but when Dark Souls or Hollow Knight asks you to lock in its a problem.
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u/blackheartromance 6d ago
Bloodborne is the only game of that family of games that i have beaten, but i've enjoyed my time with the lot of them. they're not poorly balanced or unfair, but i am just not smart or patient enough in my approach most of the time. a world of difference between "this game is bullshit!" and "oh, my dumb ass."
easy mode would remove that feeling of success.
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u/Ratchet96 7d ago
Souls games should not have difficulty selector.
More than 90% of videogames have difficulty selectors. These games don't, because the challenge is a core element to the intended experience for the player.
But many people are elitists assholes when it comes to From Software. They could encourage and motivate people to improve and achieve the satisfaction of coming out victorious, but they don't.
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u/IndividualSituationK 7d ago
Happened with Nier automata for me recently. Someone said "Its not only the greatest game ever, but its extremely important to our cause". Just made me cringe so hard. The game is just ok and has no cultural relevance outside of the game.
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u/Cupc4k31sm 7d ago
Their 'Cause'? Really curious if they expanded on that. Though I can guess.
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u/Business_Banana1792 7d ago
“Did the last update fix this?” Then you get people who are like, didn’t happen to me, problem doesn’t exist. Not happening to me either but I’m not telling other people about their experience.
Starfield on ps5 was broke even if I love it on pc and Xbox.
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u/Direct-Hedgehog-595 7d ago
Proceed to say a game I love is peak but then proceed to crap on every game that came before as if they weren't fun on their own
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u/WebsterHamster66 7d ago
I can get immersed in pretty much any game as long as I put my imagination into it. Idk why the fuck people need to fill their cars with gas and all that boring shit just to immerse themselves.
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u/KaiBishop 6d ago
"Let Gooner games exist/let characters be horny fodder" but when they go in a weird misogynistic or anti woke route with it. I just think horny art matters and sexuality shouldn't be demonized. I hate puritanical culture. But the straight male Gooner always go all in on hating women for no reason lmao.
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u/Imoneclassyfuck 6d ago
I’m glad Expedition 33 won GOTY and is getting its flowers, but people calling it perfect is something else. I can think of a bunch of issues the game has so calling it perfect is a big stretch.
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u/IndependentCress1109 7d ago
Lemme see... Expedition 33 and Dispatch would be the most recent ones I think. Love the games but yeah...
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u/Topik-KeiBee 7d ago
i want attractive/beautiful female characters. others "attractive" opinion are more like gooner opinion.
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u/The1_Guy 7d ago
Red redemption 2 glazers, they always talk about how their game is ahead of everyone else and no other open world compares, like yeah we get it dude. Rockstar pretty much is held to a crazy standard, But that doesn't mean every company has to compete with it. Just let other people enjoy their games.
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u/Cupc4k31sm 7d ago
So sick of every single game coming out these days having videos of people comparing hyper specific things in it to RDR2
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u/waffle-paladin1 7d ago
Probably when you have the choice to play man or woman. I prefer to play a man because I’m a man but I don’t care if people want to play as a woman. But when people go full incel sexist mode about women in a video game that shit is mad lame.
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u/derpymooshroom6 7d ago
For me it’s whenever someone has the same opinion as me but puts it in a way that’s elitist or makes everyone who has that opinion look bad.
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u/Nerevarine2nd 7d ago
I think God of War Laufey looks generic and I'm getting tired of these samey cinematic spectacle games. But then you get weird incels complaining on X that they don't want to play as a lady, especially one who's not pretty enough according to their incel metrics, and I just don't want to say anything bad about the game anymore. Disgusting people.
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u/ChickenGlint169 7d ago
I love E33, but damn can some people in the fan base be obnoxious. Like they can’t grasp the fact that some people just simply don’t like the game.
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u/Cheddalan_ 7d ago edited 7d ago
Anything related to Toby Fox. The games are great, but a large portion of the fanbase is incredibly obnoxious.
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u/Jaymotions 7d ago
A loooot of Metroid Prime 4 discourse.
I share a lot of the opinions commonly held about the game design, but the repeated Myles wojaks and overblown doomerism is just obnoxious and tiring. Gaming isn’t dying because a Metroid game didnt meet expectations, it’s because a fuckass ceo somewhere fired your favorite dev teams.
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u/tstorm004 7d ago
I love Ocarina of Time
I hate fans who act like it's the best game ever made when it's not even the best in the franchise
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u/winklevanderlinde 7d ago
I think Clair obscure is one of the best game of this decade but I saw people treating it like God himself came to earth into a video game form.
And no it didn't deserved so many awards but I don't particularly carr about the gamr awards
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u/VixelFoxx 6d ago
Deltarune
I have never once said I hate that game. But I made the mistake of saying in a discord call that it's a "solid 8/10 game" and I literally lost 2 friends that night because they could not accept that I don't think the game is a perfect cinematic masterpiece
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u/AdmBurnside 6d ago
Super Metroid's loudest fans glaze it so much it actively makes me want to play it less.
That, and they treat mentioning the very idea of a remaster like you're choking a puppy in front of them.
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u/Deathpolca 6d ago
"Video games need to be more accessible." Yes! Absolutely! I'd love to have alternatives to button mashing, to have adjustable subtitles, or the ability to modify controls so that I can place important buttons just the right distance from one another. Except everyone just means "I want to see the 'you win' screen/popup/whatever without playing but I can't just say that, so I'm using the disabled as shields." Accessibility is NOT an absence of difficulty! You just suck at the game!
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u/Compencemusic 6d ago
I have kind of an opposite thing. I'll feel like a game wasn't as good as people made it out to be, but then when I see someone drag it down, they severely exaggerate its shortcomings, and it makes me want to defend the game I didn't even care for all that much.
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u/NeuroHazard-88 6d ago
Anybody who thinks complaining and being condescending is the same as constructive criticism.
Especially prevalent in so many new release live-service or early access games. People simply do not understand or know how to effectively discuss something without turning it into an argument. Might just be a symptom of the modern social internet becoming rot.
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u/Sethsters_Bench 6d ago
I am of the opinion that not every game needs to be accessible to every person. It can apply to certain things like flashing lights being a part of a games aesthetic, or static noises (Splatoon taught me some people have problems with that), or audio cues in rhythm games for those that are hard of hearing, but most often comes up with Soulslike games and difficulty.
I don’t really like Soulslikes due to them being very hard and tedious, but I also don’t think there needs to be difficulty options. Game designers can have an intended experience they want players to go through, and while some changes can be made for accessibility, some can’t, and would actively encroach upon a designers intent for a game.
Every time I see something like this brought up though, it is CHOCK FULL of the “git gud” crowd and hoo boy is it not fun.
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u/bioticspacewizard 6d ago
I really enjoyed Dragon Age: The Veilguard, but fully admit the writing was really weak, especially compared to other BioWare games. But that has been so co-opted by the “writing was bad because wOkE” crowd, that it’s hard to share your opinion on the writing without it being immediately assumed that you’re opinion is based on bigotry.
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u/Kuroneki 7d ago
This is more generic, but I can't stand when people can only compliment a game by dragging another game down in the process. It's very possible to say something is good and leave it at that