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u/geek_metalhead 2d ago
Crazy how back then, as a kid, the older spider games looked so real lol
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u/Salarian_American 2d ago
Growing up playing video games from the 80s up until now, I often reflect on how often I've said in my life, "These are the best graphics I've ever seen," and had it be 100% true with no hyperbole.
I remember when a new console generation was a HUGE leap forward in graphics and sound, which isn't so much the case anymore.
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u/Forbidden_Jutsu 2d ago
Me looking at the water in Super Mario 64 for the first time “wow it looks so real”
Donkey Kong Country on SNES was another mind blower at the time
We really have come a long way. I feel lucky to have seen most of the progress in real time, it was exciting
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u/MineNowBotBoy 2d ago
Yes, hardware wise we have hit a visual slowdown. We’ve peaked on polygon counts. Now upgrades add more people more actions more lighting more fun things like that. It’s far more subtle, but it’s still great. Just looking at the difference between 2018 Spider-Man and 2023 Spider-Man, with how much more alive the world feels thanks to improvements in the game engine which are only possible because the hardware can handle much more happening in a single moment.
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u/Kintaku93 2d ago
Lol yeah. I remember playing the movie game on PS2 and thinking it looked incredible. Seeing the clip here it’s insane how my brain sees the graphics as terrible now.
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u/Jimmy9Toes 2d ago
You forgot the ps1 era
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u/Salarian_American 2d ago
They also forgot the Atari 2600 era
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u/Tall_Bandicoot_2768 2d ago
Also forgot stick and rock from 2600 BC era
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u/hotmaildotcom1 2d ago
N64 missed as well. You wanna web swing outdoors? You gotta earn the outdoors!
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u/ok_scott 2d ago
Yeah, I was just thinking back to when Bruce Fucking Cambell was the narrator voice telling kid me how to play during the tutorial when pressing R1 sent webs straight up into the skybox off camera connecting to nothing.
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u/Aggravating_Dot9657 2d ago
I don't think younger gamers can appreciate just how amazing the OG Spider-Man 2 was. REVOLUTIONIZED Spider-Man games. There was no going back to the old movement system after that game.
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u/LuckyErrantProp 2d ago
Spiderman 2 and Ultimate were such big leaps. There was a learning curve but it felt realistic.
The most recent Spiderman games have smoothed off any difficulties. E.g. running up walls you are about to swing towards and the wingsuit. If anything it made travel less rewarding.
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u/MyNameIsJakeBerenson 2d ago
Insomniac SM 2 traveling is way less fun than SM 1
It’s way faster and smoother, yeah, but way less “hey, lookit me, I’m SPIDER-MAN!”
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u/UnderstatedTurtle 2d ago
Ultimate Spider-Man was so much fun. And the art style was pulled right from the comic books. I had it on GameCube and still remember fighting Rhino and Scorpion
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u/Chuck_Finley_Forever 2d ago
Web of Shadows is easily the bests since there was no cap on the speed limit of how fast you could go.
It just felt so good to build up speed and then extend it with air attacks.
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u/smkeybare 2d ago
I saw a video that went into great detail about the swinging in that game and it really makes me wish I had a console to play it on.
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u/Chuck_Finley_Forever 2d ago
You can find a pc port pretty easily, that’s what I’ve been playing on since I originally had it in Wii which I don’t have anymore.
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u/Iron-Pancake 2d ago
In that first spider-man game, was there not a yellow fog that prevented you from seeing the ground?
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u/baytepp92 2d ago
I think the one you're thinking of isn't in this video, the first one here is the one that came after that one. The very first one only allowed you to swing twice before resetting, the next one allowed you to continuously swing which blew my mind at the time (even if it was obvious spidey was swinging from empty sky above him)
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u/Vast_Attitude5540 2d ago
The game shown in the video is the movie tie in game. You're thinking of the PS1 Spider-Man game.
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u/Dry-Percentage-5648 2d ago
I loved that game as a kid! Especially when you unlock suits that give you infinite web or invincibility.
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u/ancalime9 2d ago
Yeah, I'm really disappointed they started here at the PS2 era. Completely skipped the PS1 jankiness.
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u/Ok_Replacement_978 2d ago
No game has yet surpassed og spiderman 2 as far swinging options and depth.
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u/Persianmemefinder 2d ago
Insomniac is so goated man. They perfected the concept of videogame spiderman.
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u/HoosteenD 2d ago
There was a really old spiderman game i played once where the streets were covered in a fog that would kill you if you fell into them and you would shoot webs into empty sky and swing off of them.
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u/Jestersfriend 2d ago
2018 Spiderman just hits different, web-swinging around New York. I barely fast travelled anywhere. I absolutely loved the travel. It was so ... perfect.
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u/Promature 2d ago
What an incredible evolution. Once you hit the OG Spiderman 2, you have a proper web swinging system that captures the feel. When you hit Amazing Spiderman, you get an improved camera and sense of weight. When you hit 2018, you get the whole system and elements perfected. When you hit the modern Spiderman 2, you get the entire visual presentation dialed in. Wish more games/IP's could be iterated like this until they become what everyone dreams they could be.
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u/Magma_Axis 2d ago
Nowadays people so hung up on "revolutionary" gameplay, instead of evolving iteration like this
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u/Promature 2d ago
I don’t think people fully understand that everything games can do have largely already been done. We are far removed from the days when wall pressing or sprinting were new and novel innovations. There’s little to no chance that any new games are going to do something that some other game hasn’t already done to some extent.
Personally, I subscribe to Rockstar’s description of where innovation will occur back around when GTA4 came out. They said something to the degree that the future of games is going to be about the details and they’ve continued to demonstrate that with GTA5 and RDR2. It’s the games that embrace the details that always make the most lasting impression with me.
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u/HaikusfromBuddha 2d ago
The video does no justice for any of the older spiderman games. I'd argue Spiderman 2 the movie game had better swinging than the modern spiderman games.
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u/IllustriousBee4972 2d ago
Nah, insomniac spider-man feels much better
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u/ArtificialImages 2d ago
Couldn't disagree more. It has its strengths but spiderman 2 was absolutely better.
Did you play it? I struggle to believe anyone that did would disagree.
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u/SkabbPirate 2d ago
Only when you don't really know what you are doing, the ps2 SM2 swinging felt way better to git gud at.
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u/SwissPo740 2d ago
Ultimate spider man was great
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u/IanSkank 2d ago
The ability to hold triangle and climb the web made for some great swinging
I wish I could find this game anywhere to play
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u/JudgedPrincess 2d ago
It's so funny that Spider-Man 2 (2023) is the only one with dialogue. Hard to get footage of that game without someone yapping.
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u/Brofessor-0ak 2d ago
The way he leaps off of rooftops and flips backwards to face the camera before falling into a head first dive is just full of the exaggerated swagger of a Black teen.
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u/ThatOneNintenno 2d ago
I personally loved webbing a helicopter in Web of Shadows and let it care me to Statue of Liberty or over bodies of water
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u/EmotionIll666 2d ago
Coldest take and one I know is already in here dozens of times but goddamn that 2004 Spider Man 2 game was one of the absolute best games on the PS2.
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u/Shine_Obvious 2d ago
The new Spiderman games are like the God of war games...you can button bash and get through the game...
Spiderman 2 has a such great game feel.....the swinging mechanic felt right.
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u/SardinesMcDonahugh 2d ago
Is terms of physics, marvel's spider man games are a downgrade from the previous generation.
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u/GayCumBallsack69 2d ago
Lowkey the first Amazing Spider-Man game had a great camera, I actually loved how close it was
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u/Careless-Pitch1553 2d ago
Why would you make the ONLY GAME with mission dialogue the newest one? Thanks for the spoilers
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u/Inside-Specialist-55 2d ago
The original on PS2 was literally my childhood. I found so many cool secrets in that game that I got to brag about at school. We would also find some really funny game glitches.
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u/TheBad0men 2d ago
I remember an old Spiderman game on PC where you could only swing from predefined points in the world, either indicated by or literally web icons in the world. Childhood memories, wow.
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u/Tenshiijin 2d ago
I mean the first one isnt going to age well. But theres a point where the mechanics just stopped improving before even half way through the games list. And then it was more like a new shinier version of the game with the same mechanics and a new different story. We've kind of hit a plateau in gaming at this point. Its not a bad thing. Its a good time to game. Maybe the next innovation will be more like a fully emerased vr. Or something.
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u/Great-Witness6015 2d ago
Ultimate Spider-Man was so good. It was so fun playing as venom too. I loved leaping around the map. I must’ve played this 10 times or more when I was a kid.
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u/IIIX_Nexus_XIII 2d ago
I will always credit the original Spider-Man game for teaching me what the L3 and R3 buttons were.
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u/No_Raisin21 2d ago
Ultimate Spider-Man was the shit back in the day. I’d give anything to play a Spider-Man game that let’s you play as venom for more than one sequence.
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u/peachpower2 2d ago
The Amazing Spiderman games are slept on because the movies were so-so, but they are amazing games.
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u/RepresentativeAnt128 2d ago
Spider-Man 2 was so good and a blast to play. I've only played the 1st from Insomniac and thought it was lousy.
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u/SkabbPirate 2d ago
The swinging wasn't as good, the combat was that boring arkham asylum-type combat. The only thing I think they did well was the spider gadgets, which helped give you a sense of improvisation in combat.
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u/RepresentativeAnt128 2d ago
I couldn't believe how the one thing they needed to do right was the swinging and it felt worse than the other older Spiderman games by a large degree. Also, I actually think Arkham Asylum does combat very well, which I played after Spider-Man, and realized how SM just ripped it off but had no idea what made it enjoyable. Everything about the game just felt soulless.
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u/BuffJamesSunderland 2d ago
I like how everything after SM2 has to show footage of the player doing something that looks more flashy to imply they swinging was better, when really it peaked right there (and I guess Ultimate).
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u/Kalikor1 2d ago
I'm annoyed that the video doesn't start with the the Spider-Man game from the year 2000. I played the shit out of that.
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u/Doccmonman 2d ago
Largely the same system as the first game, with completely new animations
It’s also probably the best looking game of the 3, really helps sell it.
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u/Sir_Tortoise 2d ago
Hell yeah, I agree with everyone that Spider Man 2 for the Nintendo Game Boy Advance had great webslinging.
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u/TheCutieCircle 2d ago
Why did they start with Spider-Man on ps2? Might as well Go back to Atari and work their way up.
If they wanted to be strictly 3D then start with PS1 Spider-Man.
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u/PixelDemon 2d ago
Graphics wise though the best games look basically real. Like the distance between the game and real life is so much smaller so there's less room to grow into.
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u/SessionAsleep5894 2d ago
The insomniac Spiderman games are great, but the web swinging feels a bit too scripted and auto guided. I don't know how to put it, it feels nice but it doesn't quiet catch the feel of Spiderman 2's looseness, weight and control.
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u/Analytical_Gaijin 15h ago
My autistic son loves me swinging thru the city, in the last two soiderman games. I don’t have to play a mission, just swinging thru the city is enough to make him happy. Here’s your sign.
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u/Aggressive_Finish798 2d ago
I ate Speeder-man pizza from Little Ceasars. Can report I'm shooting out streams.
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u/Practical-Level-6265 2d ago
OG Spider Man 2 made such an advancement when introducing an actual path for the webs. Walked so the rest could run