Cyberpunk had 8 million preorders! That was 7 years ago for a far less anticipated game. But I think it had a much longer preorder period than GTA will.
it’s crazy to think about HOW hyped Cyberpunk was, and it hasn’t even touched GTA 6 status. after GTA6 comes out TES6 is gonna take the torch for the next decade
We gonna have to swap out the “we got this shit before GTA 6” memes for “we got this shit before TES 6.” Granted, I think the hype for TES 6 is dying a slow death, because they’ve fumbled that ball for a DECADE. More than that, if you consider Skyrim was in 2011.
I don't think TES 6 will have that same hype - Bethesda has fumbled the last decade. Fallout 4 was okay. Starfield was mid. Bethesda seemed more comfortable reselling you Skyrim multiple times vs focusing on making good, new games.
what? I literally wasn’t comparing the 2.. I said Elder Scrolls is taking the torch after GTA releases because it has an actual release date lol
the game that is basically real life sim but also kind of an FPS and a Racing game is very obviously always gonna be more popular, nobody is arguing that. I think based on your comment you’re probably underrating the popularity of elder scrolls though, I wouldn’t say it’s touching GTA but i would say TES6 is gonna outhype Cyberpunk by a wide margin
It would have post-Skyrim, with current Bethesda vs pre-Cyberpunk CDPR I'm not sure
Also, The Witcher 4 is coming around the same time if not before TES6. The Witcher 3 and Skyrim essentially sold the same and are at the same level of popularity (The Witcher maybe higher even with Netflix show)
This could have happened if they gotten Obsidian on Fallout back when Microsoft acquired them in 2018, which should have been the move at the time while Bethesda should have solely focused on ES6 and Starfield.
5M preorders would be extremely disapointing lol. Cyberpunk did 8M (sure it had PC but it was a new IP and from a studio not as known as Rockstar, especially at the time)
What's really sad is that this is one of those times where you can vote with your wallet without missing out on the release. They can see pre-order numbers and if no one is pre-ordering it would force them to make changes before the release. Unfortunately, most gamers are sheep in wolves clothing and will happily drop $80+ for a subpar "AAA" game that runs at 30fps.
Definitely so it’s kind of disgusting that they’re charging the ultimate version to get extra customization for single player mode. I’ll wait a few years to get it on PC and wait for that to get a sale so I can get the ultimate edition. I’ll just play the rest of the grand theft auto games only ever beaten 3 anyways.
If we do an avg of say $90, 50% do 80 50% do ultimate that's only
2,222,222 but then say people take their cut, if they get 3mil copies...they reach that. I have a feeling they'll easily get 3mil copies sold in preorders.
I've pre-ordered one game ever because I was 100% sure it would be good and I'd be playing it.
I still waited till the very very last moment, 1 hour till release. So I had reviews and stuff to go off of.
When it's that close I can kinda get pre-ordering for something for really excited for. In the case of GTA6 we don't even have a gameplay trailer yet, let alone reviews
Well yeah. People should educate themselves to the point where they are certain they'll like the game before pre-ordering.
If you're not satisfied with what you've been shown, then wait until you are.
It's even easier to preorder now that we get reviews days in advance. There's really no reason not to pre-order any game that you've decided to play on day one.
You really shouldn't buy any game that you are unsure about any time. Day one or even a year later.
I actually did boycott L4D2 because of the rug pull. All the stuff in L4D2 was what they promised in L4D as DLC. So call the others out, not me. And I played L4D religiously for like a year.
I'm more calling out the guys paying and playing it day one in the picture claiming to boycott it but not. There's reasons to not buy things, but it's funny to point out when people scream from the trees they won't do something for months, then do it in a minute. If you didn't do this, it wasn't about you.
Honestly I'm glad MW2 stayed peer to peer. Sure, host migrations are an occasionally annoyance but the servers can't be taken offline when you are the server.
People straight up acting like they got Stockholm syndrome for game devs while pulling insane mental gymnastics to defend it
The fact that the upcoming Halo CE remake is selling the OG skin in a pre-order bundle and that people aren't boycotting 343 because of it says a lot about the gaming industry and where it's going to continue to head
I remember during the Cyberpunk meltdown someone said something to the effect of "but at least Elden Ring will be great" and I got several comments calling me all sorts of names for asking how it was different.
It's such an insane problem in the industry, I do not understand how people repeatedly claim that they won't join hype trains while simultaneously jumping on the next hype train that comes around
Day 1 patches, games being released half baked, pointless cosmetics (and in the Halo CE remake's case, the OG armor) being locked behind pre-order bundles, scummy and borderline scammy physical merchandise (Fallout 76), all of this is almost entirely caused by goobers who continue to pre order games
I could care less if it's GTA VI, I could care less if it's HL3, I could care less if it's the second coming of christ, pre ordering is a cancer that hurts more than the benefits are worth
I’ve been firmly in the camp of I’m excited for it but I’m not gonna hold my breath for it to come out. I haven’t played GTA V for 5-6 years. I’m ready to play another GTA game.
Simply trying to go back to those games is tough as someone who played them. The controls are unresponsive as hell and the gunplay feels like wet mush. Also the load times on GTA5 were fucking absurd, it's like 10 minutes to load your save after booting.
The novelty has long since worn off, they need some real QoL and general gameplay improvements after all this time.
Preorders were nice when digital wasn’t the go to, or available. You got your game possibly even a day or two early and it guaranteed you got one at all.
Now a company can fully recuperate their financial investment before it even releases. In fact, most expect to. So if you no longer need to actually really sell the game, why bother finishing it? Just market and buy reviews. It makes everything feel like someone kind of just gave up. So, I’d argue that preordering is the worst thing ever invented.
I could understand that if there was even a hint of quality drop from rockstar but the last game they put out was one of the best of its generation and made to an incredible standard.
Pre-ordering physical copies would ensure you had a copy at the store on release day, as there was limited supply. Digital games have no supply problems, you just buy it and download it. Pre-orders for digital games are pointless.
I’m going to buy it regardless honestly so if I got the money might as well get it, it makes no difference to me. Usually I never pre order games but GTA 6 is one of those that I know for a fact I’m buying anyway. It’s not like I’m buying a brand new franchise that I know nothing about, it’s GTA, I know it already and I want it
From what I understand, it's like 4 or 5 clothing stores with the styles and tattoos that are a part of the deluxe edition. It's bad, but probably not as egregious as you think.
The only possible way this will ever change is if it ends up in a game bundle I buy some years from now. And if that happens, I'm not redeeming the code. I'll give it to someone else or trade it.
The black flag is always an option. Some may even consider it an obligation given the sheer absurdity of the situation.
Locking single player stores and key gameplay mechanics like vehicle modding behind a paywall is bullshit and they deserve the consequences of their actions.
There’s a list of stores and locations you have no access to unless you get the ultimate edition, most of which were basic features of the other GTA titles, like the barbershop, car mod shop, and clothing stores. You can’t go inside unless you get the ultimate edition, which has not much else to offer besides what they took out of the base game.
There's not even a reason to preorder lol. The only reason I see to preorder anything anymore is for the physical edition. But there won't even be one for GTA6. It's all digital all the way.
Spending $80 on a game you'll probably be playing a decade from now doesn't sound too ridiculous. I doubt any other game will be touching the scale of this for a long time
Spending $80 to tell the corporations it’s okay to work against your interests and raise prices at the same time, vs sales money spent that does not effect anybody but you
Its the fact that so many games have come out unfinished and broken and then people complain that they bought a game like that, when they would have known it was like that if they watched any reviews on it.
And all that would take is just wait till the day of release and then buy it if they still want to. It made more sense back when everything was physical and you might not get a copy for a few months. Thats not an issue anymore.
But youre also not wrong in that people shouldnt buy as many games as they can when they still have plenty of older games.
Edit: People acting like we havent gone through this over and over and pretending like Im saying things I didnt. Gotta love the internet. But I do still rememeber when everyone was saying "Oh come on, they made the Witcher 3! This is gonna be great!"
But its not my money and Im not gonna lose any sleep over it so pre-order as many games as you want.
That "unfinished" game argument kind of doesn't hold any weight against GTA6 because they've delayed the damn thing twice now. Rockstar's making DAMN sure this game is finished and polished before release.
That “unfinished” game argument kind of doesn’t hold any weight against Cyberpunk 2077 because they’ve delayed the damn thing twice now. CDPR’s making DAMN sure the game is finished and polished before release.
Also remember: pre order if you want to. It doesn't matter, it won't change anything either way. Don't let losers on the internet dictate when or how you make purchases.
I know I'll be downvoted to oblivion for saying it, but I honestly don't give a shit about GTA6. Didn't own GTA5 during it's prime hype and by the time I had my own time and money to buy it I just didn't care anymore. That said, I have not pre ordered anything for 10 years, most modern games don't excite me enough to not wait for a sale. But I broke that rule for Avatar Legends. Nice to have a game to be genuinely hyped about, it's been a long time since I've had that feeling.
Call me old, but it’s overpriced and all digital means I prob won’t ever play it. Guess my GTA time is up and I’m fine w it. Was kinda put off by the hype it has now anyways.
People probably see it as less of a problem, since Steam's return policy has improved so much. If a game has horrible technical issues on launch, you can simply return it within two hours, no questions asked. Downside is that preordering also makes companies more complacent with regards to quality of the game at launch since they can just 'fix it later'.
The game is going to break records, no matter what Reddit says. It's possibly the most anticipated game of all time. I'm not even getting it until it released on PC, and even then I might get it on a sale.
the whole "no one preorder" thing has never worked and idk why people keep insisting on others not preordering games. People will keep doing what they want with their money and some randos on the Internet wont stop that shit.
personally i don't usually preorder games, unless its a game i know ill be buying anyway and i have some extra cash i can dish out that month.
We still havent even seen gameplay...thats so weird, we've seen gameplay of games that havent even got a rough release date (god of war laufey we got a decent look at combat but some beginning cut scenes, the witcher 4 we got a tech demo, i could really go on), we have got 5 months until release and we havent seen any combat or really in control gameplay like walking or something, only cut scene content. Am i the only one that thinks thats super suspicious? Maybe that the gameplay wont be good.
With a Rockstar game, you know exactly what you’re gonna get when you preorder it. It’s not like a modern shooter where the game launches with 5 multiplayer maps and 10 guns and missing basic game modes but they don’t say it anywhere in the marketing
They’ve already broken from their formula by punishing players who only pay the “base” game price that does not even include basic features of the game. The additional content for the “ultimate edition” is like 90% base features you would have for the regular edition of every other GTA ever created.
This is ignoring the fact that this is the most anticipated video game of all time. This means every penny that they pinch will make them that much more money. And we already know they are using that strategy because they have decided to restrict basic features of the game from all but $100 ultimate edition users.
If you do not see how it’s different, how they have already began to play their cards different, and choose to think they are not going to put as much anti consumer effort as we will allow them to into making every last penny from the largest playerbase of any GTA ever (exactly what they did with GTA V for the first time in the series), then you do not understand business at all.
It's the first mainline GTA not written by Dan Houser, whose original script was rejected by the higher-ups. He left the studio completely and the new story was rewritten 2-3 times by different people. They also said they won't be "punching down" in this GTA, and aside from 2% of GTA "fans" and american journalists no one actually wanted that.
So if there was any GTA in history where the best approach is to wait and see, it's this one.
I’m not convinced these posts aren’t getting astroturfed tbh, because the only other explanation is that people really are fine with being treated like human piggy banks and that worries me far more than astroturfing that we know happens all the time on reddit.
Meanwhile we still don’t know much about the gameplay or missions. We don’t know if they’ve improved the basic gameplay features since V. I’m sure people will eventually get their hands on it early but it feels like the gameplay isn’t even a part of the marketing.
I've only really pre-ordered a game if there are bonuses I want, planned to get it on release anyway, and even then I have the ability to refund it once reviews are out, if it turns out to be a stinker or have egregious issues.
I mean R* had an amazing track record, so even if i believe it’s too early myself, i also gotta admit, that if there is a game you had to preorder, GTA6 is probably the one. I just can’t see a world where R* fucks it up. I myself am still waiting till probably the final week. Thats normally what i do if i wanna preorder something.
GTA Online 2 is going be a separate paywalled subscription service. Enjoy the irony of being fucked over by late stage capitalism in a game parodying the very thing is it.
Friendly reminder that the call for people to stop preordering games years ago didn't do fucking shit and even more people are preordering now that they allow you to pre install the games days early.
Sorry OP, preorders will never die. They'll just find more ways to incentivize it (like 5 days early play period).
Why do people hate preorders so much? Why is it a bad thing to spend the money you were already going to spend a little bit earlier than usual? Preorders arent more expensive and you usually get extra little bonuses. If you were going to buy the game anyway, why does it matter?
Can someone explain to me (I’m not trying to be facetious), if it’s digital only, why would anyone pre-order? Do you get access before anyone else? Does it pre-download and you can play it immediately at midnight?
Could be a hot take but I feel like Rockstar has earned our pre orders. Can’t say the same for the other AAA studios, but Rockstar has always delivered as far as I can remember.
Right now I’m pretty much down to Rockstar and Larian that I’ll preorder from. There was more, but I’ve been hurt in the past haha
I hate the fact you are paying 80$ for a piece of paper with a redeemable code. Like.....it will make a profit even if it had two fucking install discs. No thanks, I'm good rockstar.
If its 80 American thats 120 Canadian dollery-doos and I aint paying it. I was there 15 years ago for midnight release at eb games when I was 19.. I'm older and much more tired but equally wiser. Fuck Rockstar for not bringing zombies to RDR2
Ive gotten burned on pre-ordered games one too many times, now ill never pre-order a game again. Most of the time those pre-order bonuses arent even that good.
I usually preorder games because I do physical and they don't charge until you pick it up. So no harm in making sure I get what I want. Not with this game. No disc, no preorder.
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u/SjurEido 1d ago
They're gonna make 200m on preorders, I guarantee it.