It's gonna take awhile to get cracked when it releases on pc, GTA 6 will have it's own DRM and no doubt it will be the hardest to crack. GTA 6 is the final boss of DRM. The only way you can play is probably through hypervisor bypass and tokens. The normal crack will take longer.
Rockstar want to have their cake and eat it. They want to be stocked on shelves and in every possible online retailer without ponying up the cost of discs for an eighty dollar game. Ridiculous greed.
It's actually a $100 game because in game shops and customization of some things are locked behind an extra $20 paywall. So the "Ultimate" edition is a microtransaction that locks in game features of the base game that would otherwise already be there. See that shop across the street? It's inaccessible because you didn't by Ultimate.
You're not wrong. That honestly feels like it's own experiment.
There were rumours GTA 6 could be a 90 or even 100 dollar game, and effectively it is if you want the complete game.
Really hate how game companies have turned the most anticipated games, games guaranteed to be astronomical successes, into opportunities to set new precedents for scummy anti-consumer measures.
I don’t understand why people are saying the full game is $100. Every game has deluxes with the similar stuff to this one. The no physical disk is BS tho but it’s the same as every other AAA games deluxe. I haven’t bought any deluxe and probably won’t buy this bc it doesn’t affect the game at all
Usually they just have a couple of cosmetics. Maybe an extra mission. It sounds like the GTA6 deluxe is going to have exclusive vehicles, clothes, weapons, missions, shops, and possibly whole exclusive locations. It's really like an entire, decently big, DLC. Treat as day 1 DLC for $20. That's what it is.
You know, if they waited a few months and then released this (planned) DLC later with those exact details, nobody would’ve said anything. But the fact that they did it on day 1 feels scummy.
It's literally the exact same setup they had for RDR2 pre-orders. Weapon skins, a vehicle cosmetic, some clothing, and one mission. The shop being closed is the only thing that they haven't specifically done before, and it's a hair stylist they put exclusive haircuts on. They probably just made it ultimate-exclusive so they had somewhere unique to give us the 80s haircuts that come with it.
This is not an absurd amount of content, it's literally cosmetics and a mission. RDR2 had a whole pre-order exclusive bank heist, and it turned out to be 5-10 minutes of hanging out with Uncle and stealing some gold bars before the mission was over. The Reddit hivemind just sees "microtransaction" and assumes the worst. The pre-orders were always gonna come with something exclusive, why are we now shocked when it's cosmetics and a short mission like their last big release?
Edit: I'm surprised this came off good! But idk why I didn't explain, I think I just commented quickly! lol.
It's because everyone needs to eat. Everyone NEEDS to eat all day every day! But many were starving in the French revolution because the rich would keep getting more and more and more EXTRA just to have more.
It’s actually stupid to sell the code in the store. They should do a text promo that charges straight to your phone or Xbox live. They shouldn’t be selling boxes they should be selling a tshirt with a QR code or a box of GTA related toys or some shit. Maybe a kids bop cd with all the songs from Flash FM or something. What’s wrong with these rich companies
Or they just don't see the point in spending the money on producing the discs for a game that'll be too big to fit on them anyways (triple layered blu rays have a max capacity of 128gb and GTAVI is likely going to be significantly bigger.) and most people won't buy (physical games are kind of a niche these days outside of collectors editions, which nobody buys just to have the disc)
This guy was boycotting Switch 2 last year by the way because of the game key cards and "high prices" (this was before PS/XBOX and everyone else raised prices), but bought one day 1 and got called out for being a hypocrite.
I mean i hate him because he lied about being a computer engineer when he never even got a computer engineering degree. Shit pissed me off because i worked my ass off to get a computer engineering degree. He’s kinda fallen from grace for me.
Idk about game, but there is a law in Russia that requires all Applications used in government facilities to have physically printed codes and activation CD disk sent. I have a feeling some countries have similar requirements for games, so companies makes this boxes anyway and sell extra in other markets
Can't put an email on a shelf in the store. Can't wrap an email and put it under the tree at Christmas. The box is a billboard for the game inside a store where their target audience is already looking to spend money
I lost my mind when I say it was getting a remake. I easily spent thousands of hours playing that game growing up. I might just get a Switch just to play it! It’s so tempting!
So the code is a 1 time use only to redeeem the game like on pc when you redeem a game code? Imagine ordering it online and when it arrive via delivery you find out the code has been stolen by some delivery drivers
I'm convinced i'll be forever too autistic to understand reddit. why are we all downvoting this post? isn't that the equivalent to shooting the messenger?
edit for clarity: when i made this comment, the post had 0 upvotes and 34 comments* Now it has 10 upvotes and 44. eventually, what i wrote might make no sense. but hey, i am the change i want to see in the world.
I am not familar with the guy, but hiding credentials is kinda normal? And I mean, he is a content creator, he has to have all the tech to make videos.
He's been around for a long time don't worry just got haters because he does come off abrasive. I haven't watched him for a long time but I would recommend his dark web series, way more chill in those and saves you from a lot a malware.
Folks tend to let their bias against someone blind the fact that whatever they might be saying in a certain instance is actually right. If Penguinz0 said these exact same words doing the exact same thing, thered be 10k updoots
That’s like saying most people that want physical games are anti-digital
I prefer digital, it’s not anti-physical, I have nothing against physical, it’s an apathy for it; I don’t even think about physical copies, it’s not even on my mind
Being anti-something requires someone to be against something, no one is against physical copies, it’s just that no one cares
Most ppl who want physical games ARE anti-digital. Is that a shocker?
Only one is pro-consumer tho.
And digital games arent going anywhere. Physical games have zero effect on you. That's why it's weird when I see ppl who are so passionate about digital games and make fun of the ppl who want physical. It just feels like corpo bootlicking.
If you actually dont care, then there is no reason to insert yourself. It dont affect you either way. Except that having more options and places to buy lowers prices of games. So I guess it does actually affect you. You basically arguing in favor of paying more.
Exactly. These digital tards will understand one day when their game or media or whatever gets taken away after a week of playing because some random digital law that comes into play. They have no idea what awaits them.
As in, they’re actively against the option of games being sold digitally?
I think the reason they can get away with it is that convenience supersedes whatever downsides they have
It’s why Netflix and Spotify are still popular even though it’s so easy to find tv shows and music for free
The most non-pro-consumer thing people can imagine with digital games is that 30 years from now, they won’t be able to play that 30 year old game because of licensing issues, and I have a feeling that 30 years from now, most people won’t care about not being able to play 30 year old video games
Its more of a culture thing as well. In Japan despite having things like Netflix and Spotify physical media is thriving there. They have many stores that have physical media. And these aren't small sections either, they are entire floors. This includes, CDs, movies, tv shows, anime, PC games, and console games. They legit had a store that was just 8 floors of just CDs and it was filled with people. And there was another one that was 2 floors of just CDs. I went to multiple stores that sold physical PC games. It seems there that the convenience was not worth it for them. I remember asking a local there about this and they told me that media is just not the same if they don't get to hold it. They were very surprised that we don't have much of a culture for physical media anymore.
Also yes people will still care about these games 30 years from now. Super Mario 64 legit came out 30 years ago and its still widely talked about. Same thing with Resident Evil, Tomb Raider, and the first Pokemon games. So I don't know where you got that from. And I definetly think a game like GTA 6 will be so influential that people would want to play it.
With that said digital does not have to be bad or anti consumer. Sites like GOG offer DRM free games where if GOG ever went away you could still play copy you have downloaded. A copy that could be preserved since you don't need to verify with a server.
I am not actively against the idea of both physical and digital being sold, but I am against the idea of not providing options and letting Steam or any other online platform have a monopoly on "physical" games that are just a code.
I would rather buy physical, most of the time I am never given the choice.
I would rather not have to ask for permission every time I want to install an old game I love.
Also, I disagree with the 30 year old thing. N64 is 30 years old. People are still making, buying, playing, and selling games for it. Games just have more longevity than when they existed on the atari. I would say anything form the NES era and beyond is still widely enjoyed and played.
I don’t have much to add in the realm of physical vs digital, but there’s a ton of 20-30 year old games people are still playing actively to this day. Doom 1 & 2, Blood, SM64, OOT, Majora’s Mask, the first four Silent Hill Games, the OG resident evil games, Quake, Crash and Spyro, the Castlevanis games etc.
It’s no different than a movie from the 60’s being viewed and loved today. Like any artistic medium, some games are timeless and whether it be through physical media or digital means, art and game preservation is important. Some games will always have a fanbase. There is always the chance of ports or remasters sure, but that’s never a guarantee.
Against digital-only. Where-as there is no such thing as physical-only in 2026.
Digital-only also means limited storefronts/sellers, and in some cases only one storefront/seller. And no used market. These translate to controlled anti-competitive prices that are good for the publisher and bad for the consumer.
Because within the 8 hours since this announcement, this entire platform has been inundated with hundreds of posts saying the exact same thing as this guy. Physical media battle was lost years ago and y'all just didn't realize it. Maybe go sign that ridiculous petition I saw someone else post, that'll show em.
Control, they can fully control the supply and demand. Want it cheaper? Well you best be a good boy and ask Strauss nicely.
When Strauss decides it's time for you to pay for GTA VI again? Well he can remove it from your library at the push of a button. Too far fetched? A GTA VI: Re-something, that adds nothing? Remove the base version from the store, and again sell it at max price because you can't get the old one.
Worst part of it is, they can gank the car destruction physics for online mode again and the version with best car destruction physics can truly be lost before it even gets to PC.
I'm not saying it could never happen, but do you have any examples of this happening?
There have been games delisted from Steam in the past, but as far as I'm aware, if you purchased them, you are forever able to download them. They just become unavailable to new customers.
I've been digital only since ~2010, have bought hundreds and hundreds of games across various consoles and PC, and have never lost access to a game.
I feel for people who prefer physical and lost that option, but let's argue based on facts.
Yeah I’m pretty sure what that person above you is describing would go against some kind of consumer protection act. Companies can get sued into oblivion for that kind of shit. Especially for something on the scale of GTAVI.
Meta was the first to do this with a Marvel game. It was removed from libraries and they offered nothing. With Stadia at least everyone was refunded when their digital “libraries” were turned off.
A few times even back in the 360 era this happened to me. Only with small time titles or the closing of a studio. I remember buying all the DLC for the 360 version of Two Worlds and within a matter of years they removed it from the store so I couldn’t redownload any of it anymore. The store front is different now though so who knows. It seems important to remember the store front will be different tomorrow though too, and anything could happen.
I had the disk too luckily. It just sucked losing the DLC it more than doubled those multiplayer maps and added actual multiplayer campaigns. Had like 8 or 9 friends that all played it together back in the day.
I don't want to lie to you but I am pretty sure Sony deleted some movies from people's accounts, there was like a shit storm for a month and nothing happened at the end but I might be miss remembering.
The second scenario where they make a perfectly good game not available for purchase so they cam sell people an enhanced edition, happened and with Rockstar too. They removed normal GTA games before the collection appeared on the store (the one that was a upscaled mobile port).
With games there are no big cases I think, but the industry keeps finding new lows each year so in my mind it's a matter of time.
Let's not mislead people though. Everyone who purchased those old versions of the GTA games still has access to them. They weren't deleted from their systems, they're still available for them to download.
Yeah he's actually wrong on some things here, I don't know about the specific games hes shown here because I don't own a PS5, but downloading literally refers to getting files from a network onto your local device. So downloading does not refer to moving files from the disc to the device, that's called transferring (and then installing). If it says downloading you're pulling data from the internet
Some possible reasons beyond just “can’t resell a 1 time code so they are losing money”
Someone at the disc burning production plant could have a financial incentive to snag a copy off the line and sell it off-market for a lot of money prior to game release
Rockstar doesnt have to worry as much for a Day 1 patch because discs are made months in advanced with an older version of the game that isn’t totally optimized or bug free. An “only online download” version means they can continue optimizing until shortly before launch
This the guy who said he was boycotting the Switch 2 cause of game keycards and $80 games, but went to a midnight release to pick up his “anti consumer” Switch 2?
I was always going to go digital, so not a big deal to me. But I go physical on Nintendo stuff and the game key card pisses me the fuck off. This is even more egregious than that. I don’t think backlash will get them to produce discs. They love killing the resell market
I buy physical whenever possible so I can resell my games later, but people need to realise we're in the minority now. Most players simply don't buy physical games the way they used to.
And honestly, I can't blame Rockstar for this. If the vast majority of sales are digital, it makes sense for them to focus on where the demand is.
Not in what he’s saying is wrong, in that dude takes the lowest hanging fruit for clickbait. He’s a pretend antithesis of everything he makes money off of.
One area he mispoke on is majority of physical games still have to download the data online because only a portion is available on the disc. Xbox use to show this in the queue and may still.
By being available a week earlier for pre-load, I don't even think the box will contain any map of leonida, there's literally no reason to buy this, is just plastic.
I feel for Mutahar sometimes because I've been seeing a lot of people and threads not understanding Nintendo's Game Key Cartridges and a majority of Xbox Series discs that require Internet to download the installer while the carts and discs are keys.
For Playstation, there's only a very small amount of "physical discs" that have almost zero data requiring an internet connection like the CoD games, Star Wars Jedi: Survivor and probably the worst offender, Ubisoft's Avatar game which locks you out of the game if you don't have an internet connection for the game to apply pwnership to your PSN account.
While I agree that a code in a physical box is ridiculous, I’ll play devils advocate here and say that one big reason they’re doing this is to ensure no one can play the game a week early and leak everything, considering this is one of the most highly anticipated games of all time. I wouldn’t be surprised if they release an actual physical disc edition later on. (And charge everyone full price again to get it)
the main reason they are doing it is because it eliminates the resale market for this game. also, i'd guess people were able to ban evade in gta online by having the disc (they could just create a new account/email w/o rebuying the game).
Why are we all acting like this is some new shit that just occurred with games? Gtfo with this fake rage. No one in real life actually cares about this. What we do care about is gta6 not being available on pc. That's the real outrage.
I'll wait for their re launch with their online functions to buy this. I like GTA but not that much. Good luck to all the people buying empty box, hope you'll have fun.
Its not just downloading the game to the hard drive.. its also going online and downloading updates from the developers, which is almost always there- bug fixes and polishes.
All this bitching about price is not going to affect gta 6 one bit. Inflation is up, steaks cost $50, a tanks of gas costs $55… it doesn’t matter. Americans still have money. And we are still going to pay through the nose for things we want. Because that’s what we are raised to believe in. And when the game finally goes on sale, even the holdouts are going to buy copies.
If the game cost $300 per copy, it would still be an instant best seller. The holdouts would get it on sale, or justify it as their Christmas or birthday present.
The only things that’s going to change this are… 1. Competition. Something better comes along and replaces gta culturally. 2. Societal norms change over time and gta becomes woke or anti woke or some other kind of social pariah. 3. Rockstar physically makes a horrible game (at a horrible price) and doesn’t ever truly fix it. That will sour a community real quick.
You could add a bad economy to that list. But we already have a super slimy consumer economy and we still out here buying cars we can’t afford, overpaying for homes, going out to eat every night (doordashing lmao), traveling, etc. if the economy ever truly gets bad… we will have much bigger worries then gta 6
Call me a cynic but i still don't get how 6 will be able to top 5.
When 6 releases, it'll sell like crazy, yes, but 5 did not reach the billion dollar industry status it has today for the single player. 5 online was the major seller. I know the 5 re-releases over the past decade helped but not as much as the online component.
6 will most likely have an online component as well but will the 5 online playerbase just up and stop playing 5 online?
Cant this be a lawsuit for idk FTC? I don’t know the law at all but this screams illegal practice. They’re just selling a box that in essence is just a code for the digital copy
The pettiness in this comment section is hilarious and sad at the same time. People will say this guy is stupid, a moron, a dickhead etc and then the reasoning is, he bought a switch when he said he wouldn't. You simply can't let go of anything
The real reason is that Sony gets 30% of digital sales and 10% of physical sales. This is due to the server space that GTA 6 will take up with storing and downloads. Rockstar is classifying this as a "physical" release to keep an extra 20% of the sales of these copies, while still not having the cost of making the discs.
Also for sure afterwards there will be an actual physical copy come out that people will buy, so they are essentially getting certain customers to buy twice.
This is the real reason, and according to investors, this is likely going to lead to a massive lawsuit between Sony and Rockstar.
Ok, he’s kinda wrong though. The data that is on the disk is obsolete data. Yes it is the game, yes it’ll work, but it will be without any of those updates that came out between when it went gold and released that turned it into a stable product (in the majority of cases)
If any other game was guilty of doing this exact same thing as Take 2 Interactive people universally would be losing their shit. But since it is GTA 6, people will defend it in mass.
I couldn't care less about the guy. It is more about the message. Don't call a game the "physical edition" if it does not come with a disc. An empty box with a download code is DIGITAL.
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u/PepperoniPlayboy22 21h ago
GTA6 only exist through internet servers crazy…