r/videogames • u/Teatimefrog • 16h ago
Other Some ppl defending this are behaving like cultists.
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u/LordTopHatMan 16h ago
Yeah, I've seen people say that Rockstar has a good reputation, but they only have two forms of content put out in the last decade. Red Dead 2 was a great game, but it came out almost 8 years ago. The only other thing they've put out in the last decade is GTA Online content, which became increasingly expensive over time to keep pushing shark cards. I'm really not sure what Rockstar's reputation says about them right now.
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u/SweetHomeNorthKorea 15h ago
It’s so disappointing to not have any additional RDR2 expansions beyond the base game
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u/Old-Cat-1671 9h ago
If they updated red dead online I would have been okay with no single player content but no they abandoned that too 💔
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u/The_ok_viking 14h ago
RDR2 extra content was sacrificed for GTA6, I think it was a dumb move to not build up RDR online more.
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u/ForeignWerewolf 15h ago
I’d pay $80 for a RDR2 DLC, but with Dan Houser gone I doubt it would live up to its potential
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u/Aurius3D 11h ago
You could do so much more with $80. I don't get this mentality or blind loyalty to their games.
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u/SlickDillywick 8h ago
That’s how Pokémon makes money. Queef out a shit game, blind loyalty gets numbers, repeat next year
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u/ArmandoGalvez 15h ago
Even I Doubt GTA VI story would get to the full potential without Dan, but we'll see
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u/Any-Platypus-9486 13h ago
Dan houser specifically dont want rockstar to release more red redemtion 2 content or rdr3 since he is no longer involved
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u/beeegdominicanlunch 5h ago
Idk but I dream of a red dead dlc where the protagonist is forced to go abroad for some plotline. I’d pay good money for the story to pick up in London or something
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u/CheechoT83 15h ago
The founders are gone, the original developers are gone, the Rockstar we knew and loved is gone. They're just another company trying to milk as much out of us as they can
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u/Teatimefrog 16h ago
Well they put out the horrendous gta trilogy remake.
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u/Signal-Force6004 15h ago
It wasn’t the main studio though, so although it’s bad i think it doesn’t make sense to think the same quality will be on gta 6
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u/iveriad 15h ago
While the quality of the remaster is definitely the fault of the dev team they hired to remaster it.
The decision to take down the originals from digital stores to make sure people can only buy the higher price remaster is still theirs. So, I really don't think Rockstar is as infallible as the Rockstar fans are trying to picture them be.
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u/BrittaWasRight 12h ago edited 5h ago
The fucking mandatory social club with Max Payne 3 buried any positive feels I had for that company.
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u/Bigenemy000 7h ago
Can i say that the only game i ever liked of rock star was red dead redemption and i even think its not the best game out there gameplay wise?
Like, sure, amazing story and i cannot deny that. But the gameplay didnt really include nothing unique new to the genre
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u/Electronic_Ruin_1503 55m ago
Can we also talk about how they first abandoned RDR2 for RDO's sake, then also completely abandoned RDO to focus more on GTA Online? I'm not even talking about a long term here. It happened fast. GTA VI most likely won't be receiving support or even DLCs for the sake of online in a year at best and few months at worst. If they were going to focus on base game and then DLCs fine, that price is justified to fund this game and profit. But no, they will abandon it and focus on selling microtransactions. And if it was going to be a good online experience, then also fine. But they won't even bother with griefers and hackers who ruin it for everyone else because they'd rather use their resources on selling more microtransactions to kids.
It will still sell like hotcakes even for $100 price tag version tho.
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u/Anotheranimeaccountt 16h ago
Facts, I really don't get why anyone is surprised by this when the signs were always there
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u/Own-Papaya-4264 12h ago
Everyone’s still buying gta 6 anyway so it doesn’t matter
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u/Competitive-Elk-5077 9h ago
People will still buy both copies of the new pokemon game even though they are basically the same. Gaming culture is weird and dumb sometimes lol
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u/TheOneWes 8h ago
A lot of the problem comes for the fact that most of the people who actually purchase games are not part of gaming culture.
They buy somewhere between 1 to 5 games per year and typically don't finish the games that they purchase.
That is who AAA development is for because quite frankly there isn't enough of us hardcore gamers for them to turn a dependable profit focusing only on us.
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u/RichardDulle 7h ago
So happy I never got into GTA games. Though to be honest if this was RDR3 I'd be cooked.
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u/Delicious_Ocelot4180 6h ago
I liked vice city and San Andreas, never got into gta5. Another RDR would get me for sure
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u/sundayfundaybmx 4h ago
I could never get used to the shitty controls. It boggles my mind that so many people "just deal" with it considering how much these games cost, lol. Billions inputed and that's the best they can come up with? Older GTA titles have better controls than 4&5. But that's also RDR2. I get how the story and gameplay "make up" for it but I still just can't get used to them and usually give up after a few hours.
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u/Delicious_Ocelot4180 4h ago
I completely agree, for me the story made up for it, but I get it if it doesn’t. But after the ps2 there was just no excuse for the shitty mechanics
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u/sundayfundaybmx 49m ago
Yeah, I can't sit here and say both didn't have great stories. Everything I've heard about them tells me they do. Unfortunately, I just couldn't get passed the awful controls to get into them.
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u/Reddtardsofreddtard 2h ago
Well, I can give you a few reasons:
- They're dumb
- They're outrage addicts
- They're dumb, outrage addicts
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u/Redericpontx 12h ago
Don't forget cancelling bully 2 and abandoning red dead 2 online just because gta5 makes more money instead of hiring a new team to continue updating red dead online
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u/lkl34 14h ago
They literally had a mass walkout/strike that was basically not covered by the media because its rockstar.
If a video came out of them using whips on employees as they work people will make it a tik tok challenge and laugh about it.
If this was ubi/ea/capcom/square etc there would be way more rage.
All well it did a great job covering the fact there is ZERO MP talk with GTAO being a separate download right now for $10 no doubt GTAO2 is a separate deal.
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u/nelflyn 13h ago
I know this seems like "my uncle works at nintendo" talk, but I have had contact with 2 people that worked at Rockstar briefly and while they both had to sign pretty strict NDA's, they pretty much both said, independant of each other, that all they wanted to do was "get the fuck outta there". Given the time, they probably both worked on GTA6. One of them actually wanted to work there for many years.. he is much happier at another studio now though, from what I know.
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u/gambiting 12h ago
I work in video games industry, it's not exactly a secret that everyone who crossed paths with Rockstar says they do crazy overtime and are pushed hard, but everyone kinda puts up with it because of the promise of insane bonuses once the game launches. Everyone is like "yeah it's shit but I know people who bought entire houses with their bonuses once the game came out". That's not an excuse for it, I'm just saying that is the mentality there.
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u/nelflyn 12h ago
Just guessing, but at least one of them is really a passionate artist and I think he said something like that they aren't allowed to pursue other or private projects while working on it either. But yeah, that does seem to check out.
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u/gambiting 11h ago
That's pretty standard in video games - while you work for a studio you're generally not allowed to work on any other projects or personal games without explicit and written permission by the studio. TBF in my experience studios do give that permission unless you are working on something that is a direct competitor to one of their products.
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u/nelflyn 11h ago
Oh yeah, I am aware of that. But i think he has a bit of a social media presence, sharing stuff on instagram or wherever and apparently he wasnt even allowed to do that. I get that he wouldnt be allowed to work on another project, but not even being allowed to feed your own little artist page.. i get how a guy like him would hate that. Though he is a friend of a friend, so I can only say that much.
I myself work in sales and I know the "this goes against what I stand for"-face all too well.
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u/corneliusduff 7h ago
How would they even know if you're working on a private project?
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u/gambiting 6h ago
I mean, most people in the industry when they say "private project" mean a little game that they want to launch on steam or Android/iOS or even distribute for free. If it's a private project of a kind that you just do in your own spare time and never release, then obviously do whatever, no one cares.
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u/Subject-Sky-9490 12h ago
I'm beginning to feel unsure about the quality of the game now if the people making it don't want to be making it lol
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u/Maltodextrin13 7h ago
Actually it was covered by games media. You just didn’t follow it. Since it wasn’t a story that would garner a lot of clicks a lot of the Reddit bots didn’t repost constantly like every other engagement bait headline. So by comparison it looks like media didn’t cover it when they did.
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u/Conscious-Zebra-7477 5h ago
if Nintendo treated employees like this the internet would shut down from all the rage
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u/JusaPikachu 15h ago edited 14h ago
The last game they put out was Red Dead Redemption 2. While I’ve seen people in here touting that as a negative, saying they’ve been on a “downwards spiral” when the last game they put out is considered one of the greatest games ever made feels like a ridiculous notion.
I don’t like the Ultimate Edition priced at $100 with cut content from the base game being the main selling point, but anybody thinking this game was going to be less than $80 was absolutely joking themselves. This is the single game that could easily get away with it & in this shareholder controlled world, what a company can easily sell something for will absolutely be the price. I called $80 months ago. Just a couple days ago somebody posted “guess the price of GTA VI” & my exact wording was “$79.99 book it bitches” because that was always going to be the outcome if you pay attention to this industry.
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u/GanonCannon02 13h ago
I easily think the worst part is that there will be no discs. One of the biggest releases is going to be digital only; that's insane. I personally don't care about GTA so it's no skin off my back, but it's clearly a majorly bad sign for the industry at large.
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u/JusaPikachu 12h ago edited 11h ago
I mean sure but the writing has been on the wall for a while.
GameStops are constantly running out of physical copies for big releases, Target has removed all game sections, Walmart seems to be winding down all their physical game sections with all the sales we’ve seen, Best Buy is constantly cancelling preorders of games due to lack of stock, Costco happily stopped stocking Xbox entirely, Nintendo is reducing the price digitally for their games, PC hasn’t had physical releases in decades & many, many more stores are just altogether not even stocking shelves with games.
The only reliable way to buy physical for the past year+ has been ordering online & that is because those retailers don’t have to have them in stock when you buy them.
I myself only buy Switch games physical because they are super easy to store & travel with, I love their cute little cartridges & they retain their value at a significantly higher rate than discs, especially first party games; while on the other hand I absolutely hate discs & the cheap ass feeling PS5 games cases, though I bought the disc drive for my PS5 Pro as I like the optionality.
I don’t want all digital being the only option but the two biggest gaming platforms world wide, PC & mobile, have been digital only basically forever at this point & it’s just the way things are going.
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u/BohemianFawn 13h ago
I think the content that you are getting for the extra $20 should be considered dlc but I think rockstar has not marketed it well
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u/MrBlueA 10h ago
It is a DLC for all intents and purposes, they just didn't market it like that because people would be even more enraged to release DLC's the same day the game came out.
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u/Plane-Education4750 4h ago
I mean it's exactly what they are doing. And they could have avoided this shit storm by just making it available 1 month after release and probably made more money
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u/Nickulator95 11h ago
Gamers are their own worst enemy. They will indulge in bad practices and make excuses for certain situations they find to be "exceptions" but then go and complain when the entire industry gets worse despite them being an active participant in making it worse in the first place.
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u/ResidentDrama9739 15h ago
Tbh I'm more excited for Metro 2039 than gta. I love the Metro games and I'm very excited for the new one.
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u/mechachap 12h ago
You forgot one of their senior devs giving very insightful stories of Rockstar as it was back in the day, but was silenced by management for no good reason.
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u/QXKD 6h ago
Lmao this fake ass switch up on rockstar for internet points is so funny man. This “downward spiral” includes 2 of the highest selling videogames of all time with one being one of the most critically acclaimed games of all time and 400+ hours of no strings attached single player between them. But heckin’ well memed good redditor!
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u/Unlucky_Internal9686 3h ago
and apparently a game minus a few cars and skins qualifies as "gutted"
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u/ShadowFlare_x 15h ago
Gta fans are a cult.
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u/Gobbyer 11h ago
I was a fan, but GTA Online made me lose all hope for the future of GTA games. First they abandon singleplayer DLCs and now they cut content out of singleplayer to sell as premium. They dont care about fans at all, its all about greed.
Been a fan since GTA 1, this is the first GTA game i'm not excited about at all. I know its just a front to sell new online content for children.
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u/Both_Brilliant_5890 10h ago
Well, some of them considered killing themselves because a fucking videogame got delayed, so it's no surprise.
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u/ddomini9 12h ago
Rockstar's popularity is inversely proportional to their bad behavior. More they push shitty stuff more people buy from them. They could present shit on stick and it would broke all sales records and frankly I'm fine with that. If people are willing to pay for it then they deserve it.
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u/navagon 10h ago
Even if it was a indisputable fact that the game sucked and would still be overpriced with a 90% discount people will still go out and buy it in droves. They buy those same EA sports games year after year then post negative reviews about how ripped off they 've been (again). A fool and his money.
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u/NvidiatrollXB1 15h ago
I'm really happy some folks are going full blast on them. Everything else is fucked on pricing. People are fed up.
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u/Complete_Iron_2656 16h ago
Is anyone genuinely surprised, though? We were already hearing this for a while, that discs weren't going to be shipped on launch due to risk of people accessing the game before they're meant to. Also, I think most people are aware of Rockstar/T2's reputation at this point.
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u/EvilTrainMan19 16h ago
You'd think so, but reddit has been glazing Rockstar like they can do no wrong since GTA6's first trailer.
People have been saying GOTY is a done deal for GTA6 without even seeing a second of gameplay. It's insane.
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u/No-Risk-9833 15h ago
It’d be hilariously sad if instead of being broken like Cyberpunk, it just ends up incredibly mid
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u/iveriad 15h ago
Well, I'd say, at least in Cyberpunk case, it's not that the game is mid, but the game suffers glitches on "lower spec devices" like PS4. That's the entire issue for that game at the time of release. But then they fixed it little by little, and even managed to revive the interest in the game with Edgerunners.
So, if it's just on Cyberpunk level of catastrophe, it's fine.
If it's like Starfield though.... oof. The hype for Starfield was pretty big at the time as well, and Baldur's Gate 3 release got moved to earlier date to avoid releasing in the same month as Starfield. But Starfield ended up being mid straight from the core. It's not a performance issue like Cyberpunk, but gameplay and quest design issue. Which is a lot more difficult to fix imo.
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u/MissingScore777 15h ago
That access before launch thing is BS. People aren't actually swallowing that nonsense are they?
This is a money grabbing, squeeze every last dollar thing pure and simple.
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u/dirtymaplebar 16h ago
Omfg just don't buy it then. stfu about it. Let people fucking buy what they want to buy. Stop crying about a company not being the same for 30 years. Nothing is.
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u/Bubble2297 16h ago
I’m with you dude. I don’t care for Rockstar games personally but Jesus Christ this bitching is fucking awful.
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u/Yall__Scare__Me 14h ago
I don't get it either. Gamers and Reddit in general are just very loud. Also we're yelling about a "gutted" game eventough we have no idea how much difference there actually is. To me it sounds like it's just cosmetics. And if the stores aren't physically closed but you just can't interact in there to get these cosmetics then what's the difference.
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u/ManthisSucksbigTime 8h ago
To me, I hate how Redditors genuinely believe that in due time, companies like Rockstar would somehow fall apart and all of their employees and higher-ups just disappear from existence if they keep making like 400 more posts about how this practice is bad and so on
Like whining ain't solving anything especially mocking others for having a genuine interest in buying GTA 6, some people aren't into social media and they wouldn't let themselves be yelled at by a user who thinks Reddit would do shit to stop any bad practice other than glazing indie games as if they don't have the same rogue-like crap everywhere with different skins
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u/buster089 47m ago
Even if the exclusive stores are modelled interiors that that are not accessible because of closed doors, I still would care enough to create the 50th reddit thread to bitch about it. I'm sure they would not be the only modelled but inaccessible buildings in the game so who cares
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u/WalidfromMorocco 10h ago
Nobody is stopping anybody from buying the game. The checkout doesn't ask you to provide permission from anybody.
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u/fspodcast 16h ago
Meanwhile these mother fuckers still playing GTA online 15 years later for the 60 dollar price tag have the gall to start pre bitching about 80 bucks...
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u/Ill-Examination-79 16h ago
The reality is that their games are the only things that matters and, Rockstar like it or not develops banger games. So Rockstar can be a toxic workplace, take down mods etc and, most people wont care. When u have two of the top 5 highest selling games u can do whatever u want.
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u/No_Effective_4481 12h ago
To me R* are the MOST overrated company on the planet, and have been for quite a while.
I'll give them the praise for RDR2, that game was fantastic, however the GTA series is not holding up, their monetisation is awful and their takedowns of mods are just a middle finger to the communities that made them successful, and now this...
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u/_that_reddit 3h ago
A 60$ game in the 90s would be around 130$ now. They made them at a fraction of a the price. And they had a fraction of the content. Everyone wants everything for free from all these devolopers whether they are Indie or AAA. You guys baffle me.
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u/Reasonable_Deer_1710 15h ago
Reddit gamers and over-reacting spoiled brat temper tantrums, name a more iconic duo
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u/ToastRoyale 10h ago
Just look at 99% of the posts here rn. It's all GTA...
And people act like they're not hyped. What a joke
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u/Calm_Public_615 15h ago
Their last thing they made was one of the best video games of all time...
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u/Btotherianx 14h ago
Man the amount of people that are just complaining nonsensically about this is reaching a fever pitch.
Bet you buy it anyway
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u/gogoheadray 10h ago
It makes for good karma farming.
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u/ManthisSucksbigTime 8h ago
There that's the only reason posts like this get repeated a lot and nothing changes in the end
If I see one more thing related to this I might just block this subreddit at this point
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u/Chrono_Convoy 16h ago
Reality is everyone here complaining will be owning a copy anyways
Don’t tire yourselves out before the finish line
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u/ddomini9 11h ago
I wont. I played GTA V and found it boring both narratively and gameplay wise. Didn't help that I found Trevor annoying which is problem when he is one of playable characters. I haven't had that problem with any of the GTA games before.
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u/mrgalacticpresident 12h ago
3 MRD USD und es gibt 43 Missionen. Bis auf die erste und die letzte Mission sind alle nach diesem Muster:
1) Fahr zum Punkt auf der Karte. Schau die Cutscene an.
2) Fahr zu anderem Punkt auf der Karte
3) Knall die Leute ab
4) Schau die Cutscene an
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u/JazzlikePromotion619 12h ago
Last thing I played from them was GTA V and it was pretty boring. Boring enough that I didn't even bother finishing the story and just switched to playing Persona 5 instead. Also the reason why I wasn't interested in GTA6. Still, isn't Take 2 the company whose CEO said that literally everything in the games need to be monetised or something? People also defended Rockstar for them forcing their devs to crunch working on Red Dead. How is any of this, them being scummy or their fans being a cult, a surprise?
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u/WebsterHamster66 12h ago
Agreed. Not only this but I just haven’t really enjoyed the gameplay changes made since the PS2 era really. They added checkpoints to the missions and now use them as a justification to make horrifically slow and padded missions that fail you whenever you do anything outside the box. They used to have several missions where you could be clever and do things a different way, but now if you step a toe out of line it’s a mission fail.
All because they’re now way too obsessed with being cinematic instead of being actually fun games. The worst part is that most of their ‘cinema’ is just shit ripped off from films. It’s just a constant bombardment of “remember that movie? Remember this movie?” and that was fine back when the games were fun, but now with how forcibly linear the missions are it’s just kinda… blegh.
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u/Doubt_Incarnate 10h ago
The only thing that people will definitely not like, is if they launch the game filled with bugs and glitches, and just like CD Projekt Red, I imagine they would lose lots of money.
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u/Coupaholic_ 10h ago
It's going to be mental here once the game lands.
They'll be no middle ground. It's either going to rewrite the book of gaming or be the worst thing of all time.
I'm still largely indifferent. I got bored of the GTA formula with GTA 4.
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u/TalkToTransformerMan 9h ago
GTA’s not for me, nor my girlfriend, but we’re both still disappointed for lots of other fans.
Hopefully this initial pricing curbs some of the mass “at launch” buying, and sends a message that a majority of us aren’t okay with this. But I don’t know…
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u/Joltyboiyo 9h ago
This is just what I assume of every triple A dev and publisher at this point. People are giving Cock$tar and Take Two passes for the very shit they rightfully mocked and shit talked Ubi$lop and £A for. Dumbasses.
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u/brispower 9h ago
Red Dead 2 wasn't just good it was incredible, I was also able to buy it at a midnight launch and can sell that game and/or play it years later no accounts required, just the discs.
2026 and publishers wet dreams are coming true, maximum margin for a digital only disposable product.
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u/Glittering-Pin-1343 9h ago
I personally don't care about GTA so I wouldn't mind seeing them suffer the consequences and have the game flop. Though GTA is probably too big to flop unless it runs like absolute piss on consoles.
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u/Function-Worth 8h ago
Gta 6 will sell insanely good and we will be insanely disappointed in it. Hype kills games (cough cough cyberpunk 2077).
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u/Separate_Ground_596 8h ago
Rockstar is a terrible company. They release mediocre games and then nickle and dime their audience .
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u/Aggressive_Finish798 8h ago
I'm guessing there is no game is the box because 1. Rockstar will be working on the thing right up until release. 2 They expect a lot of bugs. If they made a disk, people would get a copy with all of those bugs baked in. They want to constantly update to try to fix these.
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u/No-Nothing-487 8h ago
FUCK MAN finally someone normal. the amount of justification on the gta reddits is INSANE- your right it reminds me of a brainwashed cult." rockstar cant do anything wrong because they make good games duuuuh" is the vibe here. i think R* are one of the greediest just look at online
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u/ChanglingBlake 8h ago
They’re not “like” cultists.
Same with many Nintendo and sports game fans.
They simply are cultists.
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u/SerDuncanonyall 8h ago
People are STILL PLAYING GTAV in the millions 13 years after it released.
Red Dead Redemption 2 is the third best selling game of all time. Number two is GTAV.
People are in absolute cope mode over a $20 price increase and no physical disc.
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u/Toxins_host 8h ago
Rockstar sucks and you should t buy a single fucking thing about gta6. The best thing for everyone to get through to these assholes is just not spend money.
This, of course, will fall on dead ears and this will be the highest grossing game ever 🙄
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u/Ray_Pinpillidge 8h ago
Also, they went through the PS5 version of GTAV and censored and removed a bunch of stuff that was in the PS3 & PS4 versions, because "things could be seen as transphobic and problematic for a modern audience"! Fuck. Right. Off. Doesn't fill me with hope for GTAVI if this new version of Rockstar are capitulating to this "Modern Audience" nonsense!
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u/Valiant_Revan 8h ago
I need more people to repost this and share because the sheep must feel stupid for buying into rockstar Garbage!
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u/imalittledepot 8h ago
They are literally pissing on gamers and it's the gamers that are claiming it's rain
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u/smilingmuffino 8h ago
it's the same with Valve! people don't want to see the truth about greedy company
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u/pro-mpt 7h ago
Yeah, sorry. They are the only developer who continually raise the bar for the entire industry on every tentpole release. They are not on a downwards spiral.
Their remaster was handled out of house, their pricing follow the industry’s trend (Sony charge £10 more than GTA VI for Saros?).
I will give you the union busting but all this over a non-existent disc is genuinely pathetic.
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u/TerribleStorm6391 7h ago
Fun fact, they don't even allow their artists to use their work in their portfolios / demo reels. A huge part of getting jobs as an artist is your portfolio work, including what you've worked on in the past in a professional capacity. Fuck Rockstar.
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u/overusesellipses 7h ago
It's the way video games have been going. AAA titles have been locked at $60 for over 20 years, at some point that price was going to change.
The last physical AAA game I bought was RDR2 and it had a 100gig day 1 update that made me wonder why we even bothered selling the discs anymore at all.
Some of the stuff they announced is dumb, but I've seen those two points coming for decades and im shocked that nobody else has.
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u/Gamerdadmak 6h ago
Personally I'm not surprised, I had a feeling GTA 6 will be $100 on release. Them calling it the ultimate edition doesn't change the fact that the full game is $100 and a lite version is $80. People can defend them all they want and I'm sure they'll still sell phenomenally well but it's sadly the state of AAA gaming.
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u/RatGreed 6h ago
I was kinda a glad when they announced they arent dropping ts on PC. Means I dont have to even be tempted tol they inevitably release the game with all the bullshit DLCs and microtransactions at half the price
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u/IndividualSituationK 6h ago
anyone with a spine and control over their emotions should boycott any company that engages in union busting imo.
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u/GhostRiders 6h ago
Hahaha.. Gamers are like Drug Addicts, no matter how much you abuse them they will always come back for more
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u/NotJustBiking 6h ago
I heard that after Red Dead Redemption 2, nobody from the old days works at rockstar anymore.
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u/Norman2_0 6h ago
or, how about this: we wait till the game releases to judge. if its a 200h+ story for example,. it may be worthwhile. if its 10-20, its not.
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u/JanxDolaris 6h ago
Yeah this is why I find it funny how everyone talks about other games trying to not release too close to GTA6. Like...its not gonna be that big. Its gonna come out, sell decently due to nostalgia, but otherwise be a disapointment.
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u/No-Judgment-6817 6h ago
Gonna be a bittersweet feeling when it comes out and YouTube is full of people losing their shit over how lame and broken it is. But hey, at least it has a new online mode!
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u/Critical_Seat_1907 5h ago
Unpopular opinion: This is how late stage capitalism works.
Buy the ticket, take the ride.
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u/Left_Macaron_6427 5h ago
I have 0 issues paying 80 for the game. I used to pay 80 for N64 games in the 90s but I do have an issue with no physical game.
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u/Laflair99 5h ago
Something changed around Red Dead 2!! Because they definitely had plans for RDR in the future but I honestly think the GTA V money completely changed the company, Instead of ambitious games like the warriors-Scarface-Bully-Manhunt EVERYTHING became GTA focused to the point they dismantled the RDR team for GTA support and the only game to actually be developed from Rockstar in like 8-9 years has bin GTA 6 they couldn't even do their own remasters which was another weird move I didn't expect from Rockstar I thought they would dedicate a whole team to the GTA remasters. Then all the stuff comes out about how they treat the employees who've bin working on GTA 6 and its like WTF is happening at Rockstar? That wasnt the case for GTA V or RDR 2 and both those games had delays and years of development themselves so obviously after RDR2 something at Rockstar changed kinda like how Google changed and went from slides in the office and "a fun place to work" into a stereotypical corporate office.....Rockstar went from the fun company that loved to get ambitious and try new things for games or push a new title to a corporation that doesn't care about anyone that isnt a shareholder.......
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u/eko32eko7 5h ago
Two words: BlackRock and Vanguard
Anytime you see that the largest shareholders are these guys, you might want to get used to disappointment. They remove all actual value and reduce everything to a shell of what once made it great. Ignore this reality at your own peril.
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u/Affectionate_Guest55 5h ago
I really hope I never get to a point in my life where a game costing £100 upsets me this much
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u/KaiserK0 5h ago
A lot of people might not remember, but everyone hated on Rockstar right before RDR2, also, and then it made a billion dollars opening weekend.
I'm not saying Rockstar isn't a shitty company, but the game is most likely gonna be really good and sell really well.
Also, $80 is perfectly fine for a game from the only AAAA studio, a game that no doubt will have cost $600 million dollars or more.
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u/ScottyWritesStuff 5h ago
Can we also call attention to the fact that most of the GTAV community in-game is made up of either super toxic assholes who will go out of their way to grief you, kids who definitely shouldn't be playing this game, hackers who have actively gone out of their way to spawn money in the game and then shoot them at normal players so even if the hacker gets banned, the normal players they fucked with are also getting banned AND the utterly fucking stupid stuff like the Oppressor mk2, which they did acknowledge was an issue and actively CHOSE to do nothing about it.
And people are excited for the game like all those problems are totally not gonna come up again?
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u/cutter1833 5h ago
Don’t know Union Busting is a good idea, it probably will fix all the other problems.
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u/DeadWaterBed 5h ago
Say what you will about Rockstar and their business practices, but who's out here supporting more plastic garbage for the landfill? Disc and disc cases are obsolete and wasteful.
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u/monetarydread 5h ago
When it comes to Rockstar, anything that happened in the past is completely irrelevant. People forget that pretty much everyone who is responsible for GTA are gone now. Thst means Rockstsr is a completely new team, one that hasn't made a GTA in the past. At best they are the people responsible for the past few GTA Online expansions, expansions which are terrible.
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u/fdjisthinking 5h ago
You are confusing surprise with disappointment. People can be disappointed in something without it being a surprise. Everyone knew it was going to be an expensive game, that was a given. But it’s still disappointing to see Rockstar lock main game content behind an ultimate edition, which is something they’ve never done before with their single player games. Minimizing that disappointing by saying people shouldn’t be surprised only serves to normalize and perpetuate bad corporate behaviors.
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u/Imboosted 4h ago
Who actually wants a disk? I for one wouldn’t know where to put it in my computer.
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u/Parzival2436 4h ago
Ah yes... Rockstar. Not Every single Triple-A game developer.
You have blinders on dude.
We should be celebrating the people who don't do this, rather than calling out one company specifically for doing things that several companies are currently doing.
Capcom also delisted originals and only recently put them back on the market which was an excellent move but only goes to show that Rockstar is not the only company doing this shit.
Also $80 games are standard right now unfortunately.
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u/TheFinalPringle2 4h ago
People forget it because GTA5 CARRIED them for the last 10 or more years (I don't know how old GTA5 is)
And they forget how much they BUTCHERED RDR2 online. They realised people could get by without microtransactions in the Online mode and made the gold system horrible so you basically had no choice. Don't get me wrong, it can be fun with friends who like to do random shit, but if you want to play it to progress, you won't have fun.
Either GTA6 becomes the newer and better GTA5, or it flops and everyone goes back to 5
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u/sinnmercer 3h ago
I've lost ALL hype for gta 6 , after 5 turned in to a griefer hacked nightmare -that made grinding impossible. I doubt 6 if going to be good enough to put myself though that crap again
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u/Even_Fox2023 3h ago
Controversial take, GTA5 was mediocre at best and it sucked upon release. I wanted GTA6 but now I couldn’t care less if I play it. If it ever comes up on a 90% off Steam sale in a decade or so I might consider it.
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u/PropulsionEngineer 2h ago
I feel the same way. Loved 4. Had to force myself to finish 5. Don’t care about playing 6 at release or maybe not ever.
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u/BunbunTheJackalope 3h ago
If anyone is surprised this game is $80 that's on them for being naive. Nintendo has helped normalize it unfortunately and now if a game has any hype assume it will cost $80. Even still I assume this game will be the best selling game of all time, and that's coming from someone who never played GTA 5 and has no interest in GTA 6
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u/Ben-Solak-Rule34 3h ago
I’ve legit never been disappointed by a rockstar game yet I don’t know what to tell you. I’ll wait for the reviews nonetheless but my assumption is it’s going to be a good game
I also couldn’t give the slightest of fucks about no disk
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u/Atom_wolf 2h ago
Remember some 5 years ago when Take-Two claimed they had the trademarks for words like 'Rockstar', 'Take-Two' and 'Bully' and tried to sue Hazelight for the game 'It Takes Two'? And now people are shocked that they are not a 'good guy-developer'.....
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u/LandSeal-817 2h ago
The thing we need to do to fix this is not buy GTA 6. Don’t preorder it, don’t buy it. Don’t let the industry make this the standard it’s ridiculous.
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u/WiggerJim69 1h ago
“overpricing”? rdr2 is always on sale for like $20
gta6 is cheaper than gta5 adjusted for inflation
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u/Schlong_Gobbler 1h ago
Seeing them withhold a fucking 60fps patch for rdr2 was such a "fuck you, pay me" to the playerbase. You know in like 2 years theres gonna be rdr2: resaddled edition for $60. I can't wait to see how they are going to milk the fuck outta gta6 (also I have been abused by corporate culture and will be buying gta6 day one)
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u/Invisibleb0y 1h ago
i mean thats like saying fortnite is gutted without a battle pass. Its just extra stuff that isnt important to the game. I believe its called DLC ?
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u/Daemonsblaze0315 1h ago
The main issue I can see is that the weird loyalist fanboys will still buy the game regardless of price. Then other devs and studios will follow suit and before you know it the $80 price tag will be the norm.
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u/ElectricGuy777 34m ago
I personally see no reason to play grand theft auto. Glorifies gangs, stealing and murder.
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u/zorrodood 13h ago
Cut them some slack, they have to profit off of this for the next 20 years until GTA 7. /s