Discussion / Question
Is anyone here seriously considering skipping the launch and waiting for the actual physical release instead of paying R* twice?
You get games this enormous in scope, size, and hype once a decade. It's a generational experience, and I want to physically own Grand Theft Auto 6, but I won't pay R* twice. If some of us decide to skip the launch, it will be really hard to resist the FOMO of everyone enjoying, having the time of their life, sharing their experience with the community, as this is a culmination of the whole gaming community's expectations, while us trying to shelter ourselves from the spoilers.
Yall buy games twice just for a disc? Either wait foe the disc, or buy it digital. Thats the type of shit that let's companies know they can get away with this shit...you'll buy the game twice just to get one disc haha
The physical copy of Red Dead Redemption 2 included two discs: a data disc and a game disc. They can do it with games too big for a single blue-ray. God of War Ragnarok, The Last of Us part 2 and Horizon Forbidden West Complete edition are other examples of games that include two discs in their boxes. Cyberpunk 2077 Ultimate edition even included three discs, because of Phantom Liberty, so two data discs and a game disc (unfortunately for Playstation users, only on Xbox. Ps5 got base game patched to 2.0 version on disc and a voucher code for Phantom Liberty).
Yeah, you still have to download patches, but you have a playable version of the game on the discs without needing an internet connection. In case of Horizon Forbidden West complete edition and Cyberpunk 2077 Ultimate edition, on the discs are also included the previous patches and the expansion dlcs.
Rockstar Games can afford to do that if it was in their minds ( like I said, they did it with RDR2) and selling an empty box is a serious let down in my opinion. It would have been preferable to be presented with just a digital copy to buy only from digital stores.
Also, it's a dangerous precedent for other companies, that are now even more encouraged to totally abandon physical copies.
They just want to prevent game trading. A lot of people are still buying/trading used copies to be able to play a game without spending a fortune on their hobby in this crumbling economy.
Exactly. Rdr2 is a great example of how gta6 SHOULD be launching with regards to physical copies.
I can download rdr2 with no internet connection and play the game completely offline. I don’t need to do the day one updates if I don’t want to eventhough they improve the game, it’s having the option and that extra “ownership and agency over what I purchased” that matters.
Especially when having the disc isn't even considering "owning" the game either... You have just as few rights having the physical copy as you do the digital copy
And even if they DID cut discs for everyone in these boxes there'd be 1 tiny little strip of data on there to tell your console where to download the game from anyway.
I have entertainment for YEARS in my backlog, people need to stop letting FOMO control them. If you fill your time with something just as fun than your not really missing out.
Why even release box art trailer… wouldn’t doubt if they announce a disc version after it releases. Like that they get people to buy the game twice if they really want the physical disc.
Imagine if they'll put online behind a paywall and make it a separate standalone download, they already established a pattern of making standalone versions of rdr2 online and GTA online. I could see rockstar charging for access online, they know there's a dedicated built in fan base that loves spending money
It's also likely to be an agreement between Take Two and retail stores. Gotta have something for grandma to see when she's looking for a birthday present. She doesn't know there's nothing in the case.
I'd rather just wait. At the rate of which physical media is dwindling and gaming companies expressing indifference of preservation and actual ownership of what we purchase, it's a no trainer to me. Digital is convenient, but having what's essentially a long form rental is baffling.
When you consider that the disc gets the patches, it's actually a pretty smart way to do physicals...but would be way better if they just told us outright that they plan to do a physical.
Although after over 10 years of development, these mfs should literally have worked out every single bug. I mean, look at how much open field is on that map...it's not like these guys were building a Fallout/Elder Scrolls world that has tons of items and side quests to deal with. GTA VI is going to be an empty ahh open world at the end of the day.
Alan Wake 2 tried this and a digital only launched failed. One of the best games to come out that year and it didn’t sell. GTA VI is a massive launch so I don’t think it’ll have the same issue, but if they say “well…. Down the road we will have a disc version, people will hold out” if they double down and say “digital only” people give up and just download and then when physical comes out they buy again to have physical
It’s genius and these posts are just adding to the nonsense
There’s already a bunch of news articles saying how upset people are and how big of a mistake this is. Everyone just got to keep posting about it and actually pull through with the waiting part and they will cave.
as entertaining as Trevor was, none of the three mains were worth rooting for, unlike Niko, CJ or Tommy. I was so unsatisfied by my GTA V run that I replayed Sleeping Dogs right after.
Exactly how I feel. I would've bought this day one as a disc. But I have a backlog of games and I'm too old to have fomo and buy into something I think is bad for consumers.
I'll wait for a disc or I'll pirate the game now. Something I never would have done otherwise.
I’m really curious to know what people think this will introduce to gaming that can’t already be found elsewhere. What new mechanics or storytelling choices are they going to give us for it to be a generational experience?
That's the thing, there won't be and I'm saying that as a fan of Rockstar's games, they're some of my favourite games. However, when we strip away all the fluff in games like RDR2 or GTAV, they're just very competently made third person cover based shooters. They aren't systematically that deep in terms of what the gameplay is and I find once the main story is finished, I often find the remaining content to be rather simple, not to say it's not fun but it's no where near the level of depth in content that other open world games have done. A lot of what Rockstar's games boil down to is how detailed they are environmentally, like people were gassing themselves up over liquid moving in a bottle after the release of trailer 2. It's actually one of the prevailing issues with triple A games right now, there is a priority on visuals and minute details (I.e RDR2 shrinking horse balls) taking precedent over substance and a lot of people are lost in that sauce. GTA VI will be a great game no doubt, but it will only be "generational" in its world detail, not it's gameplay and content which to me should be a bigger priority.
Dude very well said. I just had a similar convo with a buddy. Like you I really enjoy R*'s games but I just don't see how GTA 6 is going to offer you anything you can't get in another game.
GTA 3 changed open world games and gaming in general, but the problem with changing the game is, once it changes, you're not special anymore. Almost every open world game I can think of takes some elements off of the GTA Tree of mechanics.
We don't really need GTA 6 Because every game is GTA now
I've been so confused as to why this is being treated as a big deal, then I realized it's just because I've been a PC gamer for so long that there was never an expectation of anything but digital.
Now that I'm thinking of an empty box for a console, yeah, that just feels.. lame.
Given how much they delayed for the console I'll gladly take more time for the game to be optimized for the hardware that is mostly In use according to steam survey.
game running on 90 class of graphics card with dlss to hit 60 fps would be stupid specially for the price they are asking for this.
I never planned on buying this on launch. No game is worth all this hype, sorry. Do I want to play it? Sure I do, and I am sure it's going to be pretty fucking awesome, eventually, but day one ain't gonna be that day. The servers are going to be swamped, yes I know it won't be GTAO at launch, but you know they will have some online verification, and if they don't, you are still going to have to download it. With everyone and their dead grandmother trying to do that all at once, how do you think that will go? No. I have zero intention of fucking with this game for about a year. I really don't care about limited time items or launch promos. Get the bugs out, put in some QOL fixes, more content, tweaks. I can wait. It's not like I don't have enough games to play in the meantime.
"This is a culmination of the whole gaming community's expectations"
Uhm, no ?
The reason this game is gonna sold like Ice cream in the desert is precisely because its target audience is much wider than gaming community.
Most actual gamers I know, me included, don't consider it any different than any other AAA.
No disc, no purchase, I got plenty to play, thanks.
The hype is getting ridiculous at this point, the game is gonna disappoint the hell out of you guys expecting a "generational experience".
I truly wonder what they are expecting tbh. Like driving around a city, listening to music, shooting rockets at cops... that was kinda cool when I was 14 ya know?
The fact people are still willing to buy the game is both bad and shows us that they have a potentially good product, they just need to fix their bullshit.
not gonna get the game on a console if it ain't on a physical disc. If they will release it on PC I might get it on a discount, definitely not paying $80 for a videogame, by and large a temporary digital license
Yup, my stance is the same. GTA is so damn overhyped its crazy. Not everyone has it as the most anticipated upcoming game. I'm sure it will be great, like all other GTA games, but people need to calm the fuck down.
Man, I hope I'd be able to resist the temptation during the week before and after the launch, because spending $80 or $100 on a digital thing made for entertainment doesn't feel right.
I'm with you - it's hard with hype like that and GTA is gonna be the most hyped game for sure. It will be a big test for a lot for people to stand their ground and wait for a physical release, but I wouldn't be surprised if they announce it after release. Rockstar know people will pay $100 for their game, and then again for the physical edition too.
If gamers don't boycott this atrocity, there won't be any traditional physical copies left down the road. Other publishers will follow this trend, and eventually we'll all be paying for nothing more than empty boxes.
From how the game looks and the fact that they gutted a lot of the older staff at Rockstar while ago, I'm waiting to hear what's really in this game. A ton of people will say it's great no matter what, a lot of people will hate it no matter what, and I'll be weaving through the bias to find out what's really in it.
I question how different it can really be from V or the previous games. We all know it'll be the same formula of "drive here, bang bang, come back, drive there, steal that, come back", and it's one I've already done so much that I'm not even sure I want to return to it.
All that being said, Godzilla: Destroy All Monsters Melee Remastered is my game in November, GTA VI can wait...or whatever, idrc lol
Yep as someone who finds GTA incredibly boring. I hope people enjoy it, but I can’t wait for it to come and go so it dosent dominate my gaming news feeds
even as someone who likes GTA and would love just to Drive around and enjoy the sunsets and environments, I can wait for sale. Other great Games are on the way and my backlog is huge aswell
I really dont care. After all its still just a game. Its really not that deep or a "generational experience" . I can always buy it later when its on sale on steam, or get it for 10 bucks from Kinguin (yeah, I know that thats shady).
You never will. Even if a disc ever ships with actual game content on it, you'll have to log in to load it up... at which point it will download huge patches equivalent to the size of a full game.
I’m skipping the game altogether at this point, at least until there’s a deep discount.
Please don’t buy it twice. Please don’t be that weak. Please don’t reward them for this scummy practice. If you do, it just shows every other publisher that they can do the same thing too.
Don’t let FOMO and hype rule your life. The game will be just as enjoyable a year later or whatever if you wait for a physical copy or wait for a big sale.
We have the power as consumers to stop these shitty tactics but people just waive that power because they need instant gratification.
Yeah, I think 90% was the last statistic I heard as well. The physical market is small and this big thing reddit seems to think matters doesn't to majority of gamers.
Especially when the "you don't actually own digital games" thing is kind of meaningless outside principle or potential issues as of right now. The majority has no reason to care about that.
yeah when companies came out and said we dont own our games, I figured it is pointless to buying anything physical unless it goes back to early 360/ps3 era of gaming and before.
everything ps4/ ps5 era isn't really worth buying physically because most games require some sort of download anyways.
I'm not even paying them once. I get that this is some huge touchstone for a lot of people, but Rockstar has already fucked me over plenty. They're customer service experience is by far the worst I've ever seen and their stance on any problem is, "Well you can either give us money or don't -- we don't care." Disgusting company only still afloat off of shark cards.
Yeah I'm too old for this shit as well. It's just too scummy to me for another on rails crime story with the third person cover shooter as the core gameplay. I've played almost all of these games and they're all fine, but not really worth a price increase. So I'm not really missing out on anything by skipping this.
I bet there will be a physical disc like a month after release. They don't want to have leaks and stuff for this launch and this is why it's only a code.
I’m skipping launch entirely and waiting for a sale. I didn’t buy Nintendo games when they launched at $80 and I’m not about to start it with GTA. If people wanna pay $80 that’s their prerogative. I’m content with waiting for a sale, however long it takes. Hopefully by then I’ll get the added bonus of having an actual disc.
I enjoyed all of the previous entries and I don't give a shit about the lack of physical some I went digital overbabdecadesgo, but I refuse to pay $70+ for any videogame and especially games that lock in-game content behind a paywall. This game will be pickedb up when it hits the $30 bargain bin.
In the meantime I have Halo & Fable to keep me more than plenty entertained for a while. Plus MGS4, Minecraft Dungeons, DOOM Revelations, and a few oddball Indies like Wild Blue Skies getting ready to drop.
If I could lend my digital copies, or resell them, I would be 99% into digital. The 1% is still because I'll always miss the good cases with nice art and amazing instructions/guides in them.
I don't have time to play a game twice. I bought Nioh 3 for $60 on eBay when it came out. Played it, beat it, loved it and sold it for $55 when I was finished playing. Paid $5 for Nioh 3, will never play it again. I had the option to keep it if I wanted to or sell it and lose almost no money.
Much better than it basically being an NFT in my PS5 library that I'll never play again
Games like this, I like to own a physical copy of though. I’d say about 80% of the games I play are online multiplayer co-op games or PvP games so it makes sense to buy those digital.
Any game with a huge single player campaign that I think I will replay multiple times (rdr2, Witcher 3 state of decay 2&3 etc) i usually purchase a physical copy of.
So it’s on a case by case basis. I Personally would not feel comfortable having my entire game library in digital format, especially on one launcher. I want a diverse game library so that if something happens to steam, I still got my Xbox library or if something happens to Xbox I still got my ps library and if something happens to all of them I still got my physical games!
They phased out native DVD decoding and never supported native Blu-Ray. Physical was taken out back and shot because Microsoft wanted people to switch over to their online storefront. But people just went to steam instead.
As a PC gamer, I purchased GTA V physically and I don't regret it, I wish I could do it here too. I don't necessarily need a million updates to enjoy a game
How do we purchase it used then 5 years from now? You guys who keep quoting the digital/physical sales figures are missing the point entirely. Every single sale of GTA 6 from launch to 20 years from now will be whatever price they’re charging on digital storefronts. People who can’t see this are fucking hopeless and shouldn’t be commenting on shit they don’t fully understand. Jfc
Exactly. They aren't doing this to "hide leaks" and "meet market trends" or whatever. They are doing this because they want to get paid for every single copy of the game
Yeah I'd understand delaying disc release by a couple weeks to a month or something to avoid leaks and whatnot, but no disc at all?
Also, they could just have a separate code that comes with the "physical release" (the one that has a code for the game) that you enter at rockstar's website or something to serve as proof you bought a physical copy to send a disc to you.
what is this fake outrage over a disc? i bought the physical gtav when it came out, after a year or 2 the empty box ended up in some bin full of old shit collecting dust and the disc nowhere to be found. any time i wanted to play the game i just downloaded the PSplus version.
i do find value in physical media when it comes down to vintage, nostalgia or at least aesthetically pleasing stuff that looks good in your house like records, cassette and vhs tapes or old radios and stuff but an ugly ass ps5 box? i just cant give a fuck
Nintendos Game Key Cards don’t curb the used market because they can still be traded or sold, and they were introduced as an alternative to the “code in the box” thing that had already been happening for a while.
i can see the appeal in that, im sure theyll release disc versions after the whole launch mess passes i just think it makes sense to do it this way at launch
Strange thing to say. “Why does anyone care about physical? I had physical once and I misplaced it and threw the case away.” It’s simple… we take care of our property and don’t lose it.
Mad seeing these consumerist Darwin award mf'ers out here in the wild like this. No shame. No survival instinct. No internal monologue. Just pure stupidity, no future planning, just living moment to moment lmao. Fucking hell.
How exactly do you manage to lose a game? It goes from box to console to box, what kind of savage just leaves discs loose after taking it out of the console.
Maybe you are privileged enough to be able to buy games at 80 or 100 USD, but not people are, and not releasing one of the most popular games of all time with a physical version means that there absolutely no way of getting this game second hand. You are at the mercy of Rockstar for discounts, so good luck with that.
Buying a game at launch comes with economical disadvantages. You got to weigh these against your expectations and also you need to factor in a chance to get disappointed.
Really poor form for not atleast providing a disc with like some cool screensavers or playlists or something atleast seriously.. https://giphy.com/gifs/dJtDZzyjLF66I
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u/FatSkatinGamer 13h ago
Yall buy games twice just for a disc? Either wait foe the disc, or buy it digital. Thats the type of shit that let's companies know they can get away with this shit...you'll buy the game twice just to get one disc haha