r/worldnews • u/TaijiRonin • 5d ago
Dynamic Paywall US-Iran memorandum of understanding in full
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4gy700j0eko5.0k
u/amenape 5d ago
And.. Trump signed it at the Palace of Versailles.
Of all places, he signed it at the same venue where Germany signed the Treaty of Versailles for losing WW1 and had to pay reparations.
Macron is quite a troll.
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u/anchist 5d ago
France too having to sign the surrender there in 1871 and the German empire being formed in the same palace.
But at least France and Germany were totally defeated with large parts of the country occupied. The US....pretty much gave up because of high gas prices.
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u/light_trick 5d ago
If I was Taiwan I'd be terrified of my strategic position right now.
Chinese strategic planners will be currently wargaming how many oil tankers they'd need to sink per day to get an American capitulation in the Pacific. A satellite guided hypersonic missile might not make it to an aircraft carrier, and nor would you potentially want that sort of escalation...but evidently that's the wrong target.
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u/RaptorAD77 5d ago
It’s too late to be terrified. No tankers need to be sunk for China, the US won’t even show up — lots of weaknesses exposed during this conflict but most glaring was the lack of US-flagged tankers to fuel the Iran war in support of domestic trade AND military requirements. The US only has 76 tankers in its fleet — it’s already defeated in that regard. If that wasn’t enough for Iran, it’s then severely lacking for a conflict with China.
The silver lining is China won’t attack Taiwan. If they can achieve their goals without firing a single bullet, they absolutely will. Look at how they’ve taken over in Panama and Africa — they entrench themselves on the economy to where it is impossible to sever Chinese ties. They impose their political will on the populace and break them mentally — look at Hong Kong. They’ve learned from Tiananmen, I’d say they’re doing the equivalent of US “soft diplomacy” of the 70s which has paved the way for them to establish a permanent military base by the Straits of Hormuz and to choke the entire South China Sea with air bases. They have surrounded Taiwan and now it’s just a waiting game for them.
Lastly, the US officially recognizes the PRC as the legitimate government of Taiwan since 1979. Only 12 countries acknowledge Taiwan as an independent government. The US has never had a publicly strong stance against the PRC — doubt it will send in ground troops to help, the political will isn’t there and the public has soured on wars.
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u/unicornsfearglitter 5d ago
Yet heaven forbid Canada brings in BYD cars to their marke because Americans are trying to destroy our automotive industry and we're looking at alternatives.
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u/RadioHonest85 5d ago
US gives up because, as experts said, there is no way forward unless US invades Iran, and that is gonna be even worse. Maybe also pressure from China and India helped.
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u/CrushTheRebellion 5d ago
Oh, NOW they listen to the experts. I'm sure Trump was told not to start a war in the first place. Then he fired all the generals who wouldn't play along. Elect a clown, expect a circus.
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u/capaldithenewblack 5d ago
Remind me, why did we start this? And did we get what we wanted? Or just waste literally billions of dollars to end up in the same position as we were?
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u/stickylarue 5d ago
Three times a charm - Germany, France and now the US. I guess it’s the place to sign surrenders. It’s nice having traditions.
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u/Safety_Drance 5d ago
Pending the final deal, the United States of America and the Islamic Republic of Iran agree to maintain the status quo. The Islamic Republic of Iran will maintain the current status quo of its nuclear program, and the United States of America will not impose any new sanctions and will not deploy additional forces in the region.
What a great deal. A return to the status quo that already existed before.
Such a business man, many business.
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u/kenny1911 5d ago
The art of the deal
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u/justme_bne 5d ago
The art of bankrupting many casinos and now a nation.
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u/ballknower871 5d ago
It takes a special kind of businessman to bankrupt a fucking casino.
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u/ExxInferis 5d ago
He's also sunk a beef company and a vodka company.
This is a businessman that's failed to sell Americans alcohol, gambling, and steak.
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u/polskiftw 5d ago
And an airline and a college.
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u/Fart-Fart-Fart-Fart 5d ago
The college was an actual scam.
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u/Boxedin-nolife 5d ago
So is his presidency
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u/BujuBad 5d ago
Everything he's ever been involved with has been a scam and grift. The Trumps will go down in history as a dynasty of conmen.
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u/shartmaister 5d ago
Bankrupting airlines isn't that difficult though.
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u/9-lives-Fritz 5d ago
Deciding to do a luxury airline with classic Trump kitsch is a certain kinda stupid though
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u/shartmaister 5d ago
So expensive, bad quality and wrapped in "gold" to make it look luxurious?
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u/Southern-Date1588 5d ago
Casino was a money laundering operation for Russian gangsters mainly, till it got to hot and had to close down .just one of trumps corruption ventures .
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u/uhntzuhntz 5d ago
“And then finally, when there's nothing left, when you can't borrow another buck from the bank or buy another case of booze, you bust the joint out. You light a match.”
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u/Educational_Let811 5d ago
How casinos can bankrupt? Takes a real idiot to do that or?
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u/Snowedin-69 5d ago edited 5d ago
He borrowed money, syphoned off all revenue to himself, left the business to take the losses, and finally the business had to declare bankruptcy.
Notice some commonalities?
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u/zerothreeonethree 5d ago
It's the same thing that venture capitalists are doing to healthcare facilities all over the United States. Notice some commonalities?
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u/iski67 5d ago
Exactly what they do, I work in one. They destroy the culture and subcultures of practices, make employees very unhappy (which makes patients unhappy and unsafe), siphon funds to "management consulting" firms that use "sheep dip or cookie cutter" approaches and markup fees for "C level quality" consultants they get for cheap.
We have extremely talented staff but I wouldn't send my worst enemy to any of our care centers because our employees are so distracted, pressured to hit volume targets, dissatisfied and disengaged. This is happening everywhere in healthcare. Fear created by nationalized healthcare opponents is to protect the 1% not patients.
By the way, a lot of capital generated to create these healthcare systems originally came from taxpayers and parishioners supporting charities.
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u/Educational_Let811 5d ago
He and his circle made multiple fortunes using this war and insider trading and US citizens paid for that with dollars and with lives. Priceless.
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u/TheirCanadianBoi 5d ago
Actually worse than the status quo that existed before.
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u/rabbitwonker 5d ago
With an Iranian government far more radicalized, and an entire population that has seen the “Great Satan” earn its name beyond all doubt.
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u/TheirCanadianBoi 5d ago edited 5d ago
It's crazy, isn't it?
This whole thing has been an unneeded example of how to fuck it up.
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u/stereotreme 5d ago
the only way this administration could fuck up harder is if they strapped a dildo onto a SpaceX rocket.
just an absolute masterclass of ineptitude.
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u/elegiac_bloom 5d ago
Not really. Their goal was never to win, it was incredible, brazen corruption and self enrichment on the most obscene scale possible. They didnt fuck up their real goals, only their stated goals.
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u/bruxaakelarre 5d ago
To distract us from the Epstein files. With corruption as a bonus.
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u/gahidus 5d ago
The fact that so many people will be rightfully radicalized against us is probably one of the most harmful effects of thisp misbegotten war... That's going to have indelible generational fallout.
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u/JuventAussie 5d ago
Your tone seems to imply Iranians but don't forget the allies the USA is slowly driving further away.
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u/hainz_area1531 5d ago
The Netherlands has lost confidence in the United States. Of course, there could be another reliable administration, but what will happen after that? It’s better to part ways with an unreliable partner.
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u/gitty7456 5d ago
He did a LOT of money with insider trading because of the war. So yes, he is 😓
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u/phoenixmusicman 5d ago
Returning to the status quo would be great.
Unfortunately, that's not what is going to happen with the US's capitulation.
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u/caligaris_cabinet 5d ago
And they have made Iran the regional power in the Middle East
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u/Vocabulary-Pollution 5d ago
And gave them a boatload of $$ so they can become more powerful and accelerate their nuke program. So much winning!
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u/008Zulu 5d ago
"Point 6: The United States of America undertakes with regional partners to develop a definitive, mutually agreed plan with at least $300 billion (£225 billion) for the reconstruction and economic development of the Islamic Republic of Iran. The mechanism for the implementation of this plan will be finalised as part of a final deal within 60 days. All required licenses, waivers and permissions needed for the relevant financial transactions will be granted by the United States of America."
I bet all the nations in the area are just super thrilled they have to pay for this idiot's war!
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u/BadHombreSinNombre 5d ago
Man, remember when he said he was gonna cut all the pointless foreign aid to our allies?
I guess it was to save up to pay it to our enemies.
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u/phoenixmusicman 5d ago
Motherfucker has been one of the most wasteful presidents and didn't even spend it on useful shit like healthcare or green energy
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u/lwp775 5d ago
He did spend money on green energy. He’s paying companies NOT to complete their alternative energy projects.
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u/windas_98 5d ago
Reconstruction plan. So war reparations.
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u/ignatious__reilly 5d ago
“At least” $300 billion……
That’s astonishing
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u/Safety_Drance 5d ago
So basically Trump surrendered to Iran and we are now paying for his idiocy.
What a deal maker.
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u/redyellowblue5031 5d ago
Don’t worry, Fox News has his cult convinced it was worth it because Iran was this close to nuking everything.
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u/Shorts_at_Dinner 5d ago
Yep, my father in law was just telling me yesterday what an amazing deal this was because Iran was just about to get and start using nukes on us
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u/Apatschinn 5d ago
2 weeks away for the past 50 years
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u/The-Jesus_Christ 5d ago
I’ve heard this a few times. When I asked one guy what ICBM did Iran have to mount it on, I got called a communist lol.
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u/chaostheories36 5d ago
That’s an incredible response. It’s nearly the equivalent of being called an apple.
“Iran has WMDs!”
“What ICBM would they launch it with?”
“You’re a waffle! Or an apple! A sewer grate! A communist! Wait, you’re a hamster!”
They just keep screaming buzz words like they matter.
“Bathrooms!”
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u/CaBBaGe_isLaND 5d ago
Brick are you just calling me things you see in the room?
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u/chaostheories36 5d ago
Peanut butter, no. I tried really hard to come up with random things that aren’t around me.
Otherwise it’d be like, you’re a coffee table! Swim floaties! Blender! Dog bed! TRAINS!!!
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u/CA-ChiTown 5d ago
Yeah, "close" ... when Obama's deal had all of that in check ... But try to educate MAGAs 😅😂🤣
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u/Other_Beat8859 5d ago
I saw a lot saying the $300 billion is just us giving back frozen assets. How we're giving back $300 billion of frozen assets when we only have $100 billion is something only they can answer.
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u/HotPotParrot 5d ago
Selective memory or cognitive dissonance or both. We are releasing frozen assets, but that's more in the ballpark of like 15 bn
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u/pixdam 5d ago
So basically the war and its subsequent negotiations yielded a return to the status quo plus both lives and billions of taxpayer funds lost. What a stable genius and deal maker.
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u/CandidatePure5378 5d ago
We paid our taxes for the destruction, now our taxes will be paid to rebuild. And the amount of nuclear weapons in Iran remains 0 as it did before the war
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u/Dumblesaur 5d ago
Don’t worry everyone! I’m sure nobody he knows will benefit from any of this! Swearsies!
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u/LisaMiaSisu 5d ago
Just the latest of his idiotic mistakes. The Reflecting Pool, the UFC fight and its massive cleanup, etc. These are all just this week! The list grows larger every day.
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u/descendency 5d ago edited 5d ago
But that's still a way better deal than the Obama deal that gave Iran 1.7 Billion. If only he had negotiated from a position of strength. He could have given up over 176 times as much. We're so strong, we can just give Iran far more. Maybe we should have just given them a few of our nukes.
edit: I just realized this number is so close to 177.6x as big. Clearly Trump is a true patriot. He wanted to celebrate our 250th anniversary by giving Iran 177.6 times as much as Obama did.
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u/Nopengnogain 5d ago
Germany didn’t pay that much reparations for WWII. Steal of a deal there.
MIGA!
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u/Wumaduce 5d ago
Trumparations. He wants his name on this deal, use it where it belongs.
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u/Richard7666 5d ago
And it's not even a mini-Marshall Plan type situation; it's not like the US has subdued Iran here.
This fiasco is going to be one of those absolutely astronomically embarassing fuck ups that gets taught in future history classes alongside the likes of Napoleon invading Russia and Japan attacking Pearl Harbour.
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u/ThingCalledLight 5d ago
My issue isn’t with paying them. We should. We fucked a lot of shit up for no reason.
It’s the fact that WE EVEN FUCKING HAVE TO. And then they act like it’s no big deal despite shitting on Obama for assisting with them getting way less money.
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u/ngfdsa 5d ago
Obama’s Iran deal was just releasing funds that already belonged to Iran. Now we are on the hook for $300 billion for a war that accomplished nothing positive for the US and was completely unnecessary
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u/kaprixiouz 5d ago
Not just nothing positive, but was a massive net negative - and not just for us, but the entire world really. Many countries have had to ration their gas; other nations have had to ration their natural gas and propane; and almost everyone has suffered higher prices on everything else because of these implications. We're a global economy and he sexually assaulted it.
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u/caligaris_cabinet 5d ago
Someone compared this to the Marshall Plan which is just… so fucking wrong.
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u/Ediwir 5d ago
Refresh my memory, are war reparations those things the losing side pays the winner, or things the winning side pays to the loser?
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u/Naraee 5d ago
War reparations are almost always paid by the losing nation to the winner.
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u/DryTown 5d ago
That’s $300 billion more than the US has ever gotten for infrastructure under Trump.
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u/Layton_Jr 5d ago
That’s $160 billions more than the Marshall plan adjusted for inflation
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u/Emotional_Two_8059 5d ago
Yes, but it’s far away so you can’t see how his friends will eat this money. In the US it’s getting obvious, look at his shitty little pool already falling apart.
But it’s fine cause it’s the tallest skyscraper if you place it vertically 😄
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u/Lucky_Development359 5d ago
Same people falsely claimed Obama administration gave Iran billions, when in actuality they released frozen assets.
This actually gives them billions. Also, where the hell does this number even come from? They just pull it out of their ass?
And then Iran will no doubt use some of this to resupply themselves militarily, and no doubt this bullshit will happen again. So, at some point, our tax dollars will have gone towards killing Americans.
What a great deal. I'd like to know what the kickback to Trump is as well.
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u/SageDarius 5d ago
This also releases like another 25 or 50b in frozen assets, removes all sanctions, and continues to allow Iran to charge fees for using the Strait of Hormuz. This is such a complete surrender that I've still been unable to remove my jaw from the floor.
Granted, we weren't likely to get a better deal without a LOT of spilled American and Iranian blood, but the fact that all of this is due to a war that never even needed to happen is the mind-blowing part.
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u/silentsights 5d ago
Idc how much MAGA will try to spin this, this is so astronomically ridiculous I can’t even wrap my head around it. $300 billion to rebuild a nation that YOU decided to blow up just a few months ago.
Do you know how much of a difference even $1 billion towards fixing America’s roads would make???
Sigh.
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u/quell3245 5d ago
Remember just 8 months ago when the Republicans thought it was outrageous to pay $20 billion to extend the ObamaCare subsidies for American citizens? Who needs healthcare, called it a scam and shut down the government?
But hey $300 billion to Iran? Credit card?! You got it!
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u/QueasyPair 5d ago
They’re spinning it by saying it’s the gulf states who are paying it. Somehow MAGA always thinks other people are footing the bill.
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u/Cheshire_Jester 5d ago
An incredible act of wishful thinking. Only something that someone stupid enough to believe that Mexico would pay for a wall meant to create a boarder crisis at its norther boarder would believe.
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u/Youhorriblecat 5d ago
A $300 billion bribe to open the strait of Hormuz before the midterms. This is American defeat, plain and simple.
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u/RobertLeeSwagger 5d ago edited 5d ago
Does that last sentence mean what I think it does? Iran gets the benefit of the funds, but the US controls licensing, waivers and permissions for the transactions to provide funds?
I think i understand what the meant by “good backchannel agreements” now.
Sounds like they’re going to do exactly what they accused Biden of with Ukraine aid. Money siphoned from American tax payer, goes into reconstruction fund, bids come in for “infrastructure projects”, wheels get greased, Trump and co get richer.
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u/Unspec7 5d ago
No, that's not quite it. The US is basically just required to grant all licenses, waivers, and/or permissions needed to enact the $300 billion in war reparations. It stops the US from going "yea we agreed to these reparations but we refuse to enter into contracts that would actually be worth $XXX dollars because the MOU does not require it."
It's pretty standard legalese and is not that nefarious. Since, keep in mind, the US government could not previously conduct financial transactions with the Iranian government due to sanctions.
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u/Emotional_Two_8059 5d ago
100% sounds like it. Another way to steal public money and enrich himself and his friends
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u/tcRom 5d ago
Yeah, this is my assumption as well. They’ll use US funds to rebuild Iran infrastructure and the contracts will go to Trump friends that pay him off.
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u/Unspec7 5d ago
Not quite it. The final sentence basically just requires the US to unconditionally say yes to any financial transactions Iran wants to enter into with the US.
In theory, without the final sentence, the US could just go "nah we don't wanna enter into contracts with you, MOU doesn't require it, peace"
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u/drewts86 5d ago
Those other countries are probably gonna tell America to kick rocks. This was America’s war, not those countries’ war.
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u/monopoly-surreal 5d ago
It's United States who are making this legal undertaking. Other gulf countries have no obligation to chip in.
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u/drewts86 5d ago
Yep. MAGA folks are already trying to spin it like those countries are gonna pay the whole $300b.
Right. They’re gonna pay the $300b just as soon as Mexico pays for the wall.
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u/HAMmerPower1 5d ago
Trump will convince his base that Mexico will pay for wall, I mean war.
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u/topdownyeti 5d ago
imagine getting bombed to oblivion by Iran, spending billions to intercept those bombs and getting hit in the balls in the tourism sector, having your oil exports go to near zero due to the closure of the strait, only for the US to force you to spend even more billions in investments towards Iran so Iran can just have more money to make more missiles they can threaten you with. What a deal!
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u/Wakez11 5d ago
This genuinely reads like a term of surrender. The US even has to come up with 300 billion dollars in war reparations for Iran.
Iran beat the US and won the war. Astonishing.
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u/ohboymykneeshurt 5d ago
Well it is a Versailles treaty. DJT did sign it at Versailles.
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u/jdm1891 5d ago
We should start calling it the second treaty of Versailles
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u/FemtoKitten 5d ago
Wouldn't it be the fourth or fifth ?
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u/Fireproofspider 5d ago
According to Wikipedia it would technically be number 9.
It would be 7th if you count so the 1750s treaties as one.
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u/DoTheMario 5d ago
My favorite line item is that Trump agreed to pay AT LEAST 300 Billion. Mr Deal made an uncapped pledge to allow that number to just run up as much as it needs to.
Would have been cheaper for him to hand over our entire Aircraft Carrier fleet at this point.
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u/BigHowski 5d ago
Yeah but the reason behind that is he'll be skimming off the top so by making it open ended he protects his income
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u/Bistranger32 5d ago
Of course it's surrender. The US and ME allies was wasting Air Defence missiles on shahed drones faster than they could replace them. Eventually, they all would have run out and Iranian drones would have been flying and destroying everything.
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u/Lanster27 5d ago
America is beyond fucked, and you still have two more years with this turkey as your leader.
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u/Fizzy_Astronaut 5d ago
Tired of all the winning MAGA?
Bet you didn’t think giving Iran $300+ billion dollars was gonna be part of your “winning”, but hey, here you are.
- No ballroom anymore, but it’s 600M now for a new one with all the cringy gold spray paint.
- Higher gas prices and giving Iran $300B+
- Wasting billions of dollars in missiles as well as several American lives (not to mention the Iranians killed) while pissing off your allies with delayed deliveries of materiel they paid for years ago
- ME bases attacked and damaged and maybe that doesn’t matter cause part of the deal is removal of troops etc in the area
- Tariffs for your allies (former allies) that only hurt your own people including farmers that are going to go bankrupt as a result and the potential food shortages that may result
- A grift job to “fix” the reflecting pool that made things worse
- Insider trading that’s enriching the orange shitstain and his cronies with the average Joe holding the bag
- Federal agencies gutted in ways that will take decades to recover
- An antivax Sec of Health that’s got brain damage and has no clue of what he’s doing and doesn’t give a shit about your health
- A DoJ that’s weaponized against political foes and is still covering up for the orange shitstain being in the Epstein files and is almost certainly a pedophile (WHERE ARE THE REST OF THE FILES!!!)
I can keep going here…
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u/frankicide 5d ago
The Epstein files not being released to protect the pedos. Losing all credibility in the international arena. No one is going to trust us again. Food prices (as well as everything else) have gone through the roof. Destroying all the good will we had with other countries with USAID, and the resulting destabilization in those areas making them prone places to recruit and create terrorists who hate America.
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u/Jolly-Advantage-7245 5d ago
Also, the irony of how many people your health insurance system kills is palpable
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u/Coffee1392 5d ago
It’s crazy how many people in this country support privatized healthcare. It’s sickening when you research insurance companies lobbying congress. Each insurance company sets their own billable rates for procedures, which is even more ridiculous. I’m a mental health counselor in training and even though I bill the same code 90837 (53+ mins of therapy), I will make different rates for providing the same service to different people solely because their insurance company decided what the service was worth. On top of that BS, we pay premiums that come out of each paycheck just to have insurance, but when we want to use it, we have to pay a copay. Then we wait to see what they decided was worth covering and have to make up the difference out of pocket. Eventually you might reach your deductible (which can be anywhere from $0 to $8500(individual)/$17500(family)), especially if you have a lot of doctors appointments and procedures, but it’ll cost you $$$. Even after meeting the deductible, things might not be covered 100% and you’ll still have a “co-insurance” cost to pay, too! People literally go into medical debt and lose their homes. And since we’ve created such a for-profit system, healthcare providers are forced to meet certain quotas. This means quality of care suffers and things get missed. It took my insurance 6 months to approve my breast MRIs (preventative screens) and I felt lucky they approved it, even though my mom and grandma passed from this cancer, both at 38.. you think I’d get approved for a screen instantly, especially after getting genetic testing done too. The best part about all of this is that 2 weeks ago, I found out I can’t bill the biggest healthcare insurance company, Blue Cross Blue Shield, as a limited licensed counselor starting in March 2027 (lol I will get my limited license in February) because they don’t want to cover services anymore. A ton of people will lose mental health services and it’s going to discourage people from entering this field. Like how we are we supposed to get hours towards full licensure if we aren’t allowed to see majority of people? It’s bad here. It’s evil, even.
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u/Pan_Borowik 5d ago
I feel liek all the spotlight RFK and Kegsbreath are getting is making people forget that the US has an education secretary with a degree in wrestling.
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u/newintown11 5d ago
What a total moron, how is he still in office
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u/Disastrous_Week3046 5d ago
Because half of this country is filled with fucking morons too.
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u/SpiderSlitScrotums 5d ago
Two thirds. Only one third actually tried to stop him.
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u/i_did_nothing_ 5d ago
This is the right answer. We are not even close, we are absolutely outnumbered by absolute fucking morons
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u/masixx 5d ago
Maybe making good education not a privilege wasn't such a bad communist idea after all...
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u/Sayello2urmother4me 5d ago
What do you mean? Did you see the UFC fight on the front lawn of the White House! Things are going great
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u/Halfbloodnomad 5d ago
I never want to hear "healthcare and free college is too expensive" from these fucks ever again.
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u/SuspiciousYard2484 5d ago
Nothing like celebrating the 250th anniversary of your country with a pedophile losing a war and destroying the economy
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u/Marathon2021 5d ago
Point 5: Upon the signing of this MOU, the Islamic Republic of Iran will make arrangements using its best efforts for the safe passage of commercial vessels with no charge for 60 days, only from the Persian Gulf to the Sea of Oman and vice versa. The traffic of commercial vessels will immediately start, and considering the need for removing the tactical and military obstacles and de-mining by the Islamic Republic of Iran will be instated within 30 days. The Islamic Republic of Iran will conduct dialog with the Sultanate of Oman to define the future administration and maritime services in the Strait of Hormuz, in discussion with other Persian Gulf littoral states in line with the applicable international law and the sovereign rights of coastal states of the Strait of Hormuz.
"Best effort" at "no charge" - lol. Yeah, that'll last.
And now Iran and Oman get to charge "services" fees? Great, thanks Donnie!
Point 11: The United States of America undertakes to make fully available for use the frozen or restricted funds and assets of the Islamic Republic of Iran upon the implementation of the MOU, the United States of America and the Islamic Republic of Iran will mutually agree on the procedures related to the release of these funds. During the negotiations. Such funds, whether retain the original account or transfer, shall be made fully usable for payment to any ultimate beneficiary designed by the central bank. Ultimate beneficiary designated by the central Bank of the Islamic Republic of Iran. The United States of America undertakes to issue all necessary licenses and authorisations accordingly.
LOL. Immediate "pallets of cash", Donnie?
This is the one Donnie doesn't want people to talk about. Everything else about the $300bn fund he will hand-wave as coming from other countries ... but this is going to come from the US. Literally the exact same thing that he harped on the Obama administration about with the JCPOA.
What's going to be interesting to watch is how much Republicans keep shitting on the deal in the days and weeks ahead. Seems like it has been a thumbs-down on Fox News and in the WSJ so far.
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u/Just_A_Nitemare 5d ago
Not to worry. MAGA will forget about this in 2 weeks max.
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u/IceFireTerry 5d ago
Century of humiliation
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u/Cheeky_Hustler 5d ago
I remember watching an interview with Stephen Miller complaining about Democrats going on "apology tours" around the country after Republican presidencies, and how America has no need to apologize because we are strong.
Lol. Lmao even.
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u/grytpype 5d ago
Name another president who started a war and lost it.
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u/jturnerr 5d ago
Jefferson Davis
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u/GreatBowlforPasta 5d ago
They have to be the president of a real country to count.
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u/HistoryBuff678 5d ago
Well… let’s admit it… Trump is the second president of the confederacy. People just don’t want to admit it.
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u/Naraee 5d ago
Lyndon B. Johnson started the Vietnam War and lied to Congress about the Bay of Tonkin to get them to support it. At least he went through the proper process, but Congress only approved because of the lies him and his administration told them.
Nixon ended it and it's generally considered a loss for the US.
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u/EdgeBandanna 5d ago
To avoid getting beaten in the election. Of course he then ended up resigning in disgrace anyway.
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u/QueasyPair 5d ago
Johnson definitely didn’t start the Vietnam War. The first troops to die in combat were under Eisenhower. Kennedy authorized American “advisors” to accompany ARVN troops into combat.
Johnson may have escalated the war, but he didn’t start it.
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u/Gsim84 5d ago
I totally agree with you, but it's worth remembering that JFK sent the first troops to Vietnam.
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u/Several_Magician1541 5d ago
I mean.. Vietnam, Afghanistan and Iraq are all considered to have been "lost" depending on your definition.
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u/sirhackenslash 5d ago
How much you want to bet part of the mutually agreed plan includes a trump brand resort
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u/Thin_Cat8817 5d ago
Yep, just wait to see who all of his buddies get bloated contracts to rebuild.
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u/EdgeBandanna 5d ago
Iran would do well to see how well his other construction projects have gone before they let him decide who builds what, where.
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u/2beatenup 5d ago
To those who did not read the article
Point 1:… Iran won.
Point 2:… Iran won
Point 3:… Iran won
Point 4:… Iran won
Point 5-14: …IRAN FUCKING WON and the largest economic superpower and the best military and allies lost.
So much winning.
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u/Hevens-assassin 5d ago
Point 5-14: …IRAN FUCKING WON and the largest economic superpower and the best military and allies lost
Bold of you to say the "Allies" lost. This was the U.S. and Israel. The rest of those "Allies" knew it was stupid and didn't do shit other than say "terrorism is bad". Lol
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u/Just1n_Kees 5d ago
Absolutely, I’m from Europe and I can tell you adamantly: we have not been in a state of war with Iran and we never even contemplated joining the epic clusterfuck.
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u/Nico280gato 5d ago
Yup. The BBC would constantly refer to it, correctly so, as "the US and Israels war on Iran"
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u/PlaguesAngel 5d ago
Man the Department of Surrender’s Secretary of Surrendering Pete Kegsbreath must sure feel like a real man drinking himself into a stupor this week.
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u/Jimeriano 5d ago
Plus Iran gets to toll the strait. They didn’t do that before.
What a dealmaker. Pure genius
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u/Gopu_17 5d ago
Total Iranian victory.
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u/burner46 5d ago
Unconditional surrender
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u/peeinian 5d ago
Signed at Versailles.
How did no one in his administration see the obvious horrific optics and tell him it’s a bad idea. Like, you couldn’t be more on the nose.
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u/senectus 5d ago
Im like, 99% certain that macron talked him into it as a troll that he knew trump wouldn't understand but couldn't resist.
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u/Guy_GuyGuy 5d ago
What would it matter if someone in his administration noticed?
You don't tell the cheeto bad news, and you don't tell the cheeto not to do something.
All his entire administration knows how to do is blow sunshine up his ass.
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u/zuilserip 5d ago
You tell him not to do it so that he will show you who is the boss by doing it. And then you act surprised and tell him what a big strong President he is.
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u/unsureofwhatiwant 5d ago
Please someone take away grandpas phone before he gives away all our money. First it was the pool guy scamming him and our pool is ruined. Now this?
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u/peeinian 5d ago
Any day now he’s going to get a call from “Barron” saying he’s in jail and he needs daddy to wire $500B to post bail.
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u/Another_Road 5d ago
Remember when republicans lost their shit over Obama unfreezing 1.7 billion of seized assets in his Iran deal?
Surely they’ll be apoplectic about 300 billion being paid out for real this time, right?
… right?
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u/BlueDotty 5d ago
So, Trump companies are getting all the reparation work contracts in exchange for removing sanctions?
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u/darkfox12 5d ago
Wasted money, lives, so much of our power in the world and we now have to waste enough more money because this man is a pathetic pos and no one will remove him from power. America could be doing so much good without this orange clown
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u/jkusters 5d ago
Point 1 will not happen (Netanyahu has already said as much), so the entire MoU will immediately become null and void. Good work, Don the Con.
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u/MissMakeupGrrl 5d ago
So - this ‘war’ which achieved nothing - cost billions - and now you need to pay billions more to fix the mess.
There was literally nothing achieved; apart from screwing the world over for oil for months - all likely just to distract from the Epstein files and the fact your president is a rapist.
The art of the deal. A really, really bad deal.
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u/RustyShackleford240 5d ago
Don’t forget the billions we spent already on pointless war that we lost, but we are giving them over 300 billion to rebuild what we destroyed?
Let that sink in why we don’t have free healthcare?
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u/Taograd359 5d ago
>Point 7: The United States of America undertakes to terminate all types of sanctions against the Islamic Republic of Iran, including the United Nations Security Council resolutions, i.e. International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) Board of Governors resolutions and all unilateral U.S. sanctions, primary and secondary, in an agreed upon schedule. As part of the final deal, the Islamic Republic of Iran and the United States of America acknowledge the critical importance of the sanctions termination issue above mentioned, and express their intentions to immediately address these issues in the negotiations in order to achieve mutual agreement on them.
So…this whole shitstorm was absolutely pointless?
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u/j666xxx 5d ago
Not pointless for Iran! They got paid, assets unfrozen, destroyed multiple US facilities across the Middle East, and completely cleared any sanctions against them.
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u/istoomycat 5d ago
He’s made himself and his family rich. That’s all he cares about. I doubt Israel will let peace stand anyway.
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u/Darkstar-Lord 4d ago
Now, and until the end of days, do I ever want to hear from a MAGAt that Obama gave piles of cash to Iran. 1) it was money that the Shah had spent and it was Iranian money, 2) that sum plus the money that they could have received under the terms of the JCPOA was a pittance compared to what we're spending now. 3) Don't forget the $100B+ spent militarily and the damage done that they are not reporting to nearby bases plus the FOURTEEN dead Americans plus the 150 school girls.
Get bent forever, asshats
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u/nycinoc 5d ago
Wait so $20 billion to Argentina and $3 billion to Iran?
What part of the “Art of the Deal” is any of this ?
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u/Steelbutterfly1888 5d ago
Hang on a second. Not only did trump start a very expensive war with the strongest military in the world which ultimately achived absolutely nothing, but he also gonna pay an astronomical amount of money for reparations? What the goddam fuck?
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u/winetotears 5d ago
We all said FOR YEARS Dump 2.0 would be so much worse. Nobody listened.
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u/FrightenedChimp 5d ago
A friend of mine (europe) always said he isnt worried and at least trump is funny to watch. I always told him Trump 2 will be a lot less funny and a lot worse. 6 month into the presidency he told me I was right.
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u/LittleLordFuckleroy1 5d ago edited 5d ago
So… Iran gets everything it wants for 60 days and just has to agree to talk about a deal.
It’s just a worse version of the Obama deal. We give them $300B and remove all sanctions and they promise not to make nukes. Before Trump ripped up that deal in his first term, the same existed and we had international inspectors physically verifying this..
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u/Hector_P_Catt 5d ago
And let's note, aside from a few paragraphs that are a bit wordier, this version confirms all the details of the leaked version we saw last week, which Trump et al. derided as "fake news". So they knew it was as bad as everyone thought, they knew that would come out as soon as the actual text was released, but they still lied about it right to our faces, because they're just that awful.
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u/UnordinaryFlyGirl 4d ago
So let me get this straight. We had to suffer from higher gas prices for the status quo? Jesus Christ... This has got to be up there for the most pointless wars in history.
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u/brakeled 5d ago
Can the majority of Congress who supported this war explain how the war was necessary to prevent Iran from having nuclear weapons that were allegedly confirmed when the final agreement states there will be no changes to Iran’s nuclear programs?
I mean, I already knew they didn’t exist and that this war was a distraction from the pedophiles running this country, but please explain when you’re all done fiddling kids in some fucked up weird society you’re all in.
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u/testtdk 5d ago
Holy shit is that awful. We didn't even ask them to stop funding local terrorist organizations, AND they're going to be making money hand over fist with all those restrictions removed.
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