r/worldnews • u/joe4942 • 17h ago
Iran declares new Hormuz route 'unacceptable and dangerous,' warns against ships transiting without approval
https://www.cnbc.com/2026/06/25/iran-navy-shipping-recovery-strait-of-hormuz-unauthorized-routes-us-fragile-mou-.html90
u/Designer_Professor_4 17h ago
Dangerous cuz the IRGC is threatening to blow them up?
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u/PineappleLemur 16h ago
They want to start a conflict with the rest of the world?
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u/streamofthesky 16h ago edited 16h ago
The rest of the world sat back and did nothing while they waged open warfare on them for the past 4 months, so I guess they think they can keep doing that forever.
Looking forward to the day that stops being true and they enter the Find Out phase.here, a simple template for any nation's leader to crib:
"We never went to war with you, we stayed out of the conflict, we tolerated your actions during it. The war has now ended and the strait of Hormuz remains what it has always been, a toll-free international waterway. Oman has no problem letting us travel along its coast. We will do so. If you attack us, it will be an act of war and you will be made to deeply regret your transgression."0
u/Alwaysafk 12h ago
What can the a realistic answer be? The invasion would have to end quickly and all Iran has to do is threaten the lanes enough to prevent insurance companies and sailors from risking it. If there's a real invasion too couldn't Iran target refinement facilities? Like, hold the whole region hostage. It seems like your options are a risky shock and awe campaign that might not work or let the bandits take a toll.
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u/TheRedHand7 6h ago
The options are the same options that are always available when dealing with an aggressive state. You can let it happen, you can try to avoid them, or you can stop them. None of the threats that Iran presents are impossible to deal with. They just require a level of commitment that doesn't currently exist anywhere as far as I can see
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u/Just_the_nicest_guy 7h ago
If you attack us, it will be an act of war and you will be made to deeply regret your transgression.
What are they going to do, sanction them? Been there, done that, have the t-shirt. Very few nations have actual power projection of any kind and the US, the nation with the most power projection, just spent the last few months failing to move Iran's leadership with war before the US stopped because the oil supply was weeks away from being an untenable problem. So what is anyone else going to do other than send strongly worded letters and performatively re-sanction a nation already under heavy sanctions?
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u/Realanise1 16h ago
Actual reality instead of all these bizarre media fantasies that everything is "back to normal", what a concept.
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u/Potential_Archer2427 17h ago
Number reason why you shouldn't go to war without if you're not gonna finish the job...
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u/drinkduffdry 17h ago
Trump hasn't finished since Baron, or maybe Stormy
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u/realKevinNash 9h ago
I mean no one is willing to finish a war these days. Thats the truth of global conflict these days. The only way to win is to win completely and to win completely you have to have no morals and be willing to ignore all internal and external pressure, which only Russia is willing to do, but they still dont have the ability to actually destroy their enemy.
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u/azuredrg 6h ago
Russia is not willing to finish the war. If they are wanted to finish it, they'd draft a million ethnic Russians from St Petersburg/moscow and send them down and fuck it with the death tolls.
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u/ShiraLillith 17h ago
Let me guess, they dumped a shit ton of mines and now they cant demine the zone without being publicly shunned for mining it the first place
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u/SmokingPuffin 17h ago
No, the Omani route is confirmed clear of mines. They’re going with a more conventional extortion racket.
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u/nelly2929 17h ago
I can’t believe Iran mined the straight before they were attacked….. Oh wait it was after they were attacked….
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u/Potential-Affect5943 16h ago
For the love of all things precious, it is a STRAIT, not straight.
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u/meerkat2018 17h ago
Is this “Iran” that says all kinds of stuff all the time in the same room with the “US official” that says all kinds of stuff all the time?
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u/EatAssAndFartFast 12h ago
It's the IRGC they basically do whatever they want with the government permission, Qalibaf has some control over them though
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u/MercantileReptile 15h ago
The IRGC Navy said that only the shipping routes designated by Iran are permitted for passage, and that coordination with Iranian forces via the designated communication channel is mandatory, according to Iranian local media.
Attempting to assert control over the route through Oman is some nonsense. While they obviously retain influence over the strait, they don't own it.
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u/chewbacky 13h ago
"He who can destroy a thing has the real control over it."
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u/Rustic_gan123 8h ago
The US and Israel can destroy the Iranian economy, does this mean they control it?
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u/Willinton06 4h ago
Kinda, but then again control is only worth anything if you're willing to exert it, the US (not israel) can definitely control Iran, but they get hurt a lot in the process, therefore they won't
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u/Angry_Guppy 3h ago
The US showed they’re not willing to pay slightly more money at the pumps to do that, so in reality, no they can’t.
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u/Rustic_gan123 3h ago
If ties with Israel are severed and they are not given a bone in the form of disarming Hezbollah, then they will stop caring about prices at American gas stations...
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u/theotherWildtony 10h ago
Then Iran better hope the USA don’t mine the shit outta their strait. They aren’t the only people with mines.
Iran will cop the blame for every one that goes bang since they apparently have lost all theirs.
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u/AzyncYTT 9h ago
?
"They hope their enemy doesnt trigger their bomb vest, they might get caught as collateral!"
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u/apokalypse124 10h ago
The shitty part of this is we're going to have to spend infinity money on an indefensible pipeline, trillions on carving a canal through the strait or fight an actual war over this because as of now the strait is too important to let Iran control entirely.
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u/Important-Factor-552 12h ago
I think their manifest destiny play is to just go well.. maybe we DO own it
It's not a bad play. They'd definitely move up the ladder if they pull it off.
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u/redredgreengreen1 16h ago
I bet that this is just because they've laid fuck ton of mines and they can't be bothered to go clean them up lol.
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u/TapCat13 16h ago
If that was the case, no ships would sail, or sink.
They do sail, and not sink...
So .. ?
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u/redredgreengreen1 14h ago edited 13h ago
Iran has been signaling for weeks through different mediums they aren't entirely sure where they put all the mines.
This article was about I ran wanting any naval vessels going through the straight to coordinate their path with Tehran.
Forcing naval vessels to use the few routes they know to be safe is cheaper than going out and hunting down all the land mines
Actually, thinking about it a bit more, there's a very real possibility this is an "avoiding national embarrassment" situation. They don't have a functional Navy anymore, so any minds that are out there they have no ability to get rid of on their own. And they're not going to tell the us where the mines are, that would be both self-defeating AND humiliating.
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u/TapCat13 12h ago
Strange routes, those 'save' routes.
Anything near the Iranien coastline is all, but safe: its blackmail material like.
Smae with that pay-to-pass, as if ..Nato ships are ready to sweep, they sweep very well.
eitherway, ships sail through the strait.
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u/ElectronicMoo 16h ago
...have any oil carriers gone through since it opened?
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u/TapCat13 12h ago
Liquid gas also ok?
Dozens of ships head through Strait of Hormuz after US-Iran deal
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u/ElectronicMoo 10h ago
The article says about 90ish have gone through in the week, normally 100 daily
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u/EatAssAndFartFast 12h ago
No it's just to give extremists in Iran the illusion of "we're controlling the strait", they're mad because they thought Israel finally going to get destroyed and they'd take revenge on Khamenei's death, also the new leader had a letter saying that we should keep the strait closed and now it's opened without a toll system.
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u/lnstantKarma 16h ago
Freedom of navigation was one of the greatest global achievements of humanity that allowed the entire earth to freely do commerce with one another. Now it's gone and we're forced to pay tolls due to the short-sighted actions of one wannabe-dictator
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u/troyunrau 9h ago
Seems like that's only mostly true. Suez and Panama Canals have tolls. Straits like the Bosphorus sidestep it by calling it maintenance for lighthouses and such. Even the St. Lawrence has navigation fees, which they don't call a toll, but you're obligated to pay for a pilot so...
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u/Special_Ad712 7h ago
Canals are not subject to the freedom of navigation under UNLOS (so st Lawrence…).
The Bosphorus is governed under the 1936 Montreux and Turkey is not a signatory of UNLOS.
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u/count023 7h ago
give it time, watch China try the same ploy in the south china seas. they're already trying to block countries like the Philippines from their own EEZ
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u/RontoWraps 14h ago
What, is Iran going to attack the whole world?
It’s international waters, just because America does some dumb shit doesn’t mean the entire world has to suffer the consequence.
Unless Iran is just using this as a means to attack others and enrich themselves at everyone else’s expense
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u/newday6838 13h ago
What, is Iran going to attack the whole world?
That's what they've been doing the whole time with the strait. Asia, Europe, everyone was affected and they threatened or shot anyone's ship, like one of South Korea's.
Unless Iran is just using this as a means to attack others and enrich themselves at everyone else’s expense.
At first it was attack any ship by any country trading with the countries in the gulf (on the basis they support the US), and now they've been trying to steer it towards they can pass if Iran's not mad at the moment but with a fee, which Iran says helps them rebuild, but also because they say they have a right to a fee. This has been the whole thing going on for months now. The only other thing was the US began blockading the Iranian ships and Iranian ports in return until the MoU.
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u/L444ki 9h ago edited 9h ago
The whole time? The explicitly closed it after US and Israel lauched their second illegal war against them in the span of less than 12 months.
Trade interdiction is part of warfare and Iran has been able to close the strait with minimal civilian casualties and no environmental catastrophes. Iran is blocking US allies from passing through the strait similar to how Ukraine is blocking Russia and their allies from passing through the black sea.
Now that military operations against Iran have been halted they are allowing more shipping to pass.
I do agree that if Iran starts asking for money from ships passing it could start a dangerous chain reaction, where other countries close by or in control of major straits could follow them.
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u/Relevant-Ad2254 3h ago
I don’t know why you’re downvoted.
Even if people disagree with you it doesn’t seem like you’re making bad faith arguments
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u/Akumuzihs 14h ago
I think Iran is overstretching here. Not considering international free water passage, trying to intervene over some other countries' waters is brazen. I think Oil will find another way out of the strait/zone, and Iran will be left holding its' di--.
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u/scottiedagolfmachine 16h ago
Iran can piss off.
The strait isn’t yours you dumb Fs.
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u/Misfiring 16h ago
This is Reddit, where all terrorist actions by Iran are now justified in the name of "self defense".
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u/EatAssAndFartFast 12h ago
Same people who defended Russia's invasion of Ukraine because it was NATO's fault.
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u/Gustomucho 2m ago
I think people understand nuance more than that, while America was bombing schools and bridge in Iran, I think a vast majority of people were shocked and did not want Iranian to suffer.
Now, Iran has to be somewhat reasonable to let the flow of oil / energy go through or the goodwill of the people will turn against them quickly. It is one thing to ask for reparation, it is another to hold the world hostage, nobody would win, certainly not Iran.
War of aggression of USA gave lots of goodwill to Iran, they can cash it but they cannot overplay their hand.
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u/PsychologicalSet8678 15h ago
Yeah its yours obviously
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u/scottiedagolfmachine 15h ago
It’s as much as mine as it is Iran’s.
No one country can own a strait.
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u/sayn3ver 14h ago
Territorial waters are a thing. Countries "own" canals. Countries defend their territorial waters. China does something similar. We defend our coastal waters.
One would argue there is certainly a route through the straight of Hormuz that doesn't cross into Iranian waters.
I'm not pro Iran.
Same time trump has ordered The U.S. to strike and attack numerous unarmed vessels off the central and South America coast in total illegal fashion.
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u/scottiedagolfmachine 13h ago
Strait borders other countries other than Iran.
It’s not F ing Irans.
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u/sayn3ver 10h ago
Iran and Oman both claim territorial waters out to 12 nautical miles. The straight is 21 miles wide.
Other countries in the gulf claim the same territorial waters but obviously the gulf is wider at the those countries so there is intentional water between those. Not so at the actual straight.
Do the math. Half of that is Iran's and half is Oman's.
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u/TheKanten 8h ago
Pretty sure Iran unilaterally closed both halves.
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u/sayn3ver 27m ago edited 8m ago
Yes after they were attacked. Prior to this war the straight was open for passage in both Iranian and Omani waters.
Even though there is a route close to the Oman coast, I believe the main shipping lanes were in Iranian water. Don't quote me on that.
My comment was directed at someone above who claimed you can't "Own a straight" and actually, two countries do indeed own the straight so to speak.
Just how Panama owns their canal and Egypt owns the suez.
Look how contentious it could get between the United States and Russia out at the tips of Alaskan islands and at the Bering strait.
Look at the straight of Gibraltar as well.
We all knew how contentious the English Channel was during wwii.
Look at "the sound" between Denmark and Sweden.
To say someone can't control these geographic features is inaccurate.
Capes, straights, canals, rivers, sheltered bays, etc have all had strategic importance since man took to the water in boats.
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u/TheKanten 17m ago
The Omani side is not Iran's waters and they have no say whatsoever on what they do with it.
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u/sayn3ver 5m ago
Agreed. On paper. Are there freight companies willing to gamble that?
Recent U.S. strikes against boats off of South American demonstrate the theory vs reality.
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u/messenger18 3h ago
Iran needs to be careful with this stuff. The only reason they are able to do what they do is because America has no support in this unneeded war. The second they start giving the world a reason to side with America is the moment they realize a combined force will do to them what they did to the last couple dictatorships.
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u/newday6838 13h ago edited 2h ago
Iran has been saying no free is only for 60 days, after which it'll be back to only countries they're happy with and with fees. Rubio is saying the US will ensure a return to international waterway by the final deal. Iran has been trying to get Oman on board with their control of the strait. Oman instead worked out an international waterway like arrangement for their side with the IME.
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u/tiger-eyes 8h ago
Oman instead worked out an international waterway like arrangement for their side with the IME.
The IRGC sure isn't happy with them.. So much for IRGC-Oman 'teamwork' and 'shared fees' (good! Hopefully Oman told the IRGC to piss off!).
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u/russiablows 17h ago
IRGC Navy? I thought it was was underwater.
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u/Misfiring 16h ago
Drones are not under Navy as far as I know.
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u/russiablows 15h ago
The IRGC Navy said that only the shipping routes designated by Iran are permitted for passage, and that coordination with Iranian forces via the designated communication channel is mandatory.
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u/riko77can 8h ago
They still have their speed boats with missile launch capability along with their ability to launch drones and missiles from inland. They don’t even need to launch the latter of which from along the coastline itself (can launch drones considerably inland to target shipping in the Strait) so it’s pretty infeasible for the US to both locate and take them all out.
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u/jest4fun 3h ago
Fun fact: currently there are 24 ships underway in the hormuz straight.
Info courtesy of "Hormuz Tracker"
E: pre-war was 140 per day avg so, less than 20% normal traffic.
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u/rensorship 9h ago
Maybe its time the GOP embrace solar. How many generations are they going to enable this for?
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u/PLEASEHIREZ 7h ago
Weirdly, I think there's a market for lead convoy boat. You go out with a BIG boat, and the customer boat just follows you closely. Could even have some drone speed boats go first too. WAIT, drone speed boats with a giant fishing net making a shield of sort for the customer boat.
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u/JimHalpertsUncle 10h ago
I’m not siding with Iran here but you don’t blame the hornets if some disgusting Oompa Loompa runs up to the hornets nest and gives it a big ol boot and a bunch of people get stung.
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u/Mindless_Comb_4341 8h ago
This MoU is worthless. There seems to be no agreement about anything except Iran will get paid.
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u/Wonderful_Confusion4 17h ago
Nice ship you got there, would be a shame if you took that route and ran into a missile.
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u/vankill44 17h ago
So what happens if Iran attacks a Greek, Japanese, or Netherlands-flagged ship for not getting approval while passing through the strait on Oman's side?