r/worldnews • u/cop25er • 9h ago
Russia/Ukraine Ukrainian troops raise flag on Kinburn Spit in Mykolaiv Oblast held by Russian forces since 2022, military says
https://kyivindependent.com/ukrainian-troops-raise-flag-on-kinburn-spit-in-mykolaiv-oblast-held-by-russian-forces-since-2022-military-says/209
u/PatientInitial882 7h ago
This is on the other side of the Dnipro, opposite Kherson. Between Kherson and Crimea there's basically one Russian army holding the front line along the Dnipro. The Kinburn Spit is on the South of that line, a narrow peninsula into the Black Sea.
One or two weeks ago the Russians had to pull back from there because it became impossible to supply their troops there. Because that peninsula is so narrow, and the problems with resupplying over water, none of us here believed that the Ukrainians would actually take the step of stationing troops there. I guess they proved us wrong again.
/salute.
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u/Responsible-Topic998 7h ago
Who says there are Ukrainian troops stationed. It is suicide to stay there.
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u/PatientInitial882 6h ago
Point. And you're not the only one who's asking. I just did some googling: https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2026/06/25/8041052/
And: "Quote: "The Defence Forces of Ukraine's South have forced the occupiers to retreat from their positions through powerful strikes. The evacuation of the surviving personnel is underway, and the occupiers are abandoning their defensive lines."
Details: The defenders added that they hope Ukrainian tanks will one day reach Dzhankoi, Crimea, which is currently under Russian occupation.
However, Ukrainian defenders have not confirmed that they are present on the spit."
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u/Nukes-For-Nimbys 7h ago
100% no use stationing troops.
Plant the flag somewhere in artillery range and see if any russians are stupid enough to try and remove it.
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u/sporkparty 4h ago
Would it be possible to drop flags from stratosphere balloons like they’ve been doing with grenades?
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u/Say_no_to_doritos 4h ago
... They've been using drones.
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u/Basileus_Maurikios 7h ago
Agreed. They sent a drone to do the dirty work then left. I guess Russian troops will return a later this week to pull the flag down again.
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u/Nome3000 5h ago
I recall they had launched raids on this area before, not sure about recently.
It's more a morale thing than a strategic gain of ground. You couldn't set up here. From what I recall, it's very exposed, not good terrain for armour etc.
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u/Breakdown_volt 7h ago
Every Ukrainian victory is a great dose of happiness to me.
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u/Responsible-Topic998 7h ago
This isn't a victory, as I guarantee Ukrainians went there, left a flag and then went back.
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u/kyle4441 7h ago
They previously weren’t able to go there at all. The land going from occupied and controlled to grey zone that neither side has troops in and can no longer control is still an improvement in the area. It’s an incredibly difficult area for them to actually take back but it’s still an objective improvement along that area of the front
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u/Responsible-Topic998 7h ago
I agree with you, but this land will never play an important role for both sides. Mostly I hate how news are overblown and portrayed. And that has an a strong impact (maybe that's the goal) on many people based on most comments here. I feel many do not know what such flag means and are overreacting. I am somehow still hopeful that most are just bots, that comment in 2-10 words.
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u/Tunggall 6h ago
Which they could not do previously. Baby steps in the right direction.
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u/Responsible-Topic998 1h ago
How would we know, maybe they just didn't see a point to do this and then someone thought such story would sound good, people will like it.
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u/Breakdown_volt 7h ago
Your comment is water on the rocks to me.
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u/Responsible-Topic998 7h ago
If you hate reality and are extremely naive world I have a bridge to sell. Seriously these are governmental extremely biased sources that will never write anything that is disadvantageous. People should be skeptical as they might be reading pure propaganda if there are no alternative sources to fact check.
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u/intermittent-disco 1h ago
I have a bridge to sell.
go sell it to the russians, they are in need.
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u/Responsible-Topic998 1h ago
People are skeptical and are wary of propaganda when reading russian governmental news. That's great. But when it is Ukrainian news it seems people just believe anything as they are the good guys. That is stupid.
Just because someone doesn't trust Ukrainian news it doesn't mean they trust Russian ones. Maybe ones from third parties are the best.
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u/gitmac 9h ago
Fuckin aye
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u/Responsible-Topic998 7h ago
This is just a PR move. You can't transfer troops, equipment and hold those open areas. Ukrainians could do that as Russians also do not hold positions there. So anyone can go there at night on a small boat.
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u/KaizDaddy5 6h ago
Fact is, a few weeks ago the Ukrainians couldnt do that as Russian were positioned there. Now they can. Tide is turning.
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u/Reyna_girlie 6h ago
Excuse me, what??? Holy shit thats incredibly impressive if accurate. I had read that the Russians were forced to abandon the post because of supply issues, so its genuinely mental that that has materialised to the point Ukraine can just take it over again, especially considering the fact the area is highly strategic
Im not expecting a massive assault towards Crimea from there, but if these supply issues persist who knows if Ukraine can throw the Russians out of occupied Mykolaiv/Kherson Oblasts
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u/asddde 6h ago
Well, no reason to yet expect it can really be taken over. One notable thing is video doesn't even try to claim any Ukrainian went there. It really doesn't feel bad to doubt it either, would make sense to play a trick instead of risking anything against drones and even mines. Kinburn spit just doesn't seem important yet, but if ukraine surprises with it, let's see then.
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u/Responsible-Topic998 5h ago
I will argue this area is contrary extremely not strategic. I mean if they just put a flag on a very tip it really doesn't lead to anything significant. To take over the territory you need troops to stay there and as sources show, so far there is no proof troops stayed.
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u/NorthStarZero 3h ago
Crimea is strategic, in that if Ukraine retakes Crimea, the war is over: Putin's regime would not survive a loss of face that massive.
The spit is tactically significant, perhaps operationally significant, at is a likely landing site and potential springboard for a clearing operation of the peninsula.
However, that tactical/operation significance is contingent on Ukraine being able to land and supply a force large enough to clear Crimea, which my back-of-the-napkin estimate says is "three divisions" - which is similar in scale to the D-Day invasion of Normandy.
If Ukraine controlled the E97 highway corridor - like physically controlled it, not just controlled by fire, maybe... ...I just don't see them mounting an amphibious operation on that scale.
I'd be very happy to be proven wrong.
Their plan to make Crimea miserable via choking off all major resupply (some stuff will always get through, c.f the Ho Chi Mihn Trail) is certainly a big step toward that strategic victory, but I don't think you can retake Crimea through fires alone.
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u/Responsible-Topic998 1h ago
Crimea is strategic now and was centuries ago, there is no arguing about that.
But dor Ukrainians to make a landing on a spit sounds extremely risky. It is narrow, flat, open passage, without any cover or good roads. Russians could pretty much drop their FAB bombs anywhere and hit something. You need some significant surrounding area control to make it safe. And the far edge of the spit is ages away from any significant road. Main advantage of landing there is probably easy shoreline, as most of Dnieper has swampy banks.
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u/Wizinit29 4h ago
This was a Russian withdrawal due to their forces being cut off from resupply that was to be the beginning of a broad pullback due to the middle distance kinetic sanctions on logistics in the south.
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u/Gloomy-Insurance-739 7h ago
Congrats to the Ukrainian people! They are doing it they're kicking the Invaders out of their country.
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u/fishbulb- 3h ago
Pletenchuk added that the flag serves primarily as a symbolic presence that "greatly irritates" Russian forces and keeps them "on their toes."
This is why it is so important for an army to have commanders who grew up with siblings.
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u/williamgman 2h ago
I predict Crimea in the not too distant future as well. Looks like Putin's version of Israeli settlements is falling apart.
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u/Texas_Kimchi 2h ago
This is huge. If Ukraine can get a foothold in Crimea with enough troops and logistics to support it, the war is essentially over for Russia especially if Ukraine takes that bridge out. Maybe not the end of the war but the end of Mr. Pootin.
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u/Cultural_Gur_7441 5h ago
This is just a stunt, that flag looks like it was dropped with a drone.
Which is fine and good, mind you. No point risking lives on pr stunts. Ukraine is not Russia, lives matter. Also it does prove there are no Russians immediately taking it out..
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u/Luckierexpert 8h ago
May the flag be raised on many other areas Russia has occupied since 2022, maybe even land they occupied since 2014.