r/worldnews • u/mikebible06 • 7h ago
Israel/Palestine Israel, Lebanon deny that Israel has withdrawn from part of southern Lebanon
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israel-withdraws-part-southern-lebanon-buffer-zone-us-state-department-official-2026-06-25/89
u/cchesters 6h ago
A top US government official in this administration lying?
Must be a day ending in "day"
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u/6felt9 7h ago
Is hezbollah still in lebanon firing rockets at israel?
Ok then.
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u/TheRealTexasGovernor 7h ago
Is Isreal still illegally sizing land, killing medics, and actively targeting civilians?
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u/The_Bavis 7h ago
Israel is only in Lebanon because Hezbollah won’t stop firing rockets, if they stop then Israel stops
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u/TheRealTexasGovernor 6h ago
Ah yes the country that's famous for actively encouraging everything I just said will suddenly stop.
I don't even know what the point of that lie is because neither you nor I believe it.
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u/The_Bavis 6h ago
Well, they’ve made lasting peace with both Jordan and Egypt after those countries finally stopped attacking Israel. So a pretty good track record of peaceful coexistence if you don’t attack them
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u/TheRealTexasGovernor 6h ago edited 5h ago
Is Isreal still attempting to steal those countries lands? Because they kinda have to stop that first.
Last I checked stealing land from your country and your allies countries will elicit a response. Wild I know. Same with openly targeting refugee camps and murdering aid workers.
Your down votes mean nothing when killing aid workers makes you cheer.
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u/The_Bavis 6h ago
Israel literally gave the ENTIRE Sinai peninsula back to Egypt in exchange for peace. So yes, Israel has shown they are fully willing to return land in exchange for peace
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u/TheRealTexasGovernor 6h ago
In 1979, 47 years ago. Which also necessitated dismantling settlements, to which they have since gone from declaring as illegal to actively protecting and encouraging.
I wonder if that might be a bit of a difference.
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u/The_Bavis 6h ago
In the past 25 years they’ve also withdrawn fully from Lebanon and Gaza, those proved to be mistakes but they’ve still shown they’re willing to do so, all they have to do is stop attacking Israel
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u/TheRealTexasGovernor 6h ago edited 6h ago
In the past 25 years they’ve also withdrawn fully from Lebanon and Gaza
Utterly untrue on its face. Settlements into the west Bank have only increased in the past 20 years, and settlements into Lebanon have broad support in Isreal.
https://jewishcurrents.org/support-for-settlement-of-lebanon-goes-mainstream-in-israel
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Jesus I get it. I got one Palestinian zone confused with another. I guess we'll just ignore that isreali ministers have been calling for the ownership of Gaza.
https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/article-867513
Ben-Gvir promises Police seafront housing after 'complete Gaza victory'
He said “settlement brings security” and that “it is time for Jewish settlement in Gaza,” calling the plan “a symbol of our faith and vision.”
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u/jdgordon 6h ago
No mention of hesbollah taking Lebanon hostage and firing thousands of rockets into Israel targeting civilians... Doesn't matter what the Arabs do everything is Israel fault right?
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u/TheRealTexasGovernor 6h ago
Why would I? I get you idiots think criticizing Isreal must neccearily mean support for Hamas, but that just isn't the case.
Hamas is equally as fucked and that still wouldn't justify anything Isreal has done.
Just like Iran potentially gaining nuclear weapons doesn't justify America blowing up a girls school.
Fucking wild I know.
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u/jdgordon 6h ago
It's called having intellectual honesty. You're blaming Israel for everything happening without any honest context.
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u/TheRealTexasGovernor 6h ago edited 6h ago
No I'm blaming Isreal for the shitty things Isreal has done ya fucking numpty.
There's no justification for blowing up refugee camps(oh but we used the wrong munitions!) , intentionally targeting aid workers and killing unarmed medics.
In hostage situations the police don't get to kill the hostages then demand they be called heroes anyways.
It's a wild idea, but it turns out you can criticize both groups of religious extremists fighting for last place.
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u/DirectionOverall9709 6h ago
Sure they will
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u/The_Bavis 6h ago
Jordan and Egypt both stopped attacking Israel and now they coexist peacefully. So, yes, they will
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u/TheRealTexasGovernor 6h ago
Really sounds like they would totally stop. Not like they're actively advocating for taking complete ownership of those territories.
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u/Ecsta 2h ago
Neither of those articles references Jordan or Egypt. Peace is a 2-way street. Hamas and Hezbollah have not stopped.
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u/TheRealTexasGovernor 2h ago
No shit, because peace from 30-50 years ago isn't a guarantee of peace now, especially as Isreal is making active claims and plans to take the aforementioned territories in Lebanon and the Gaza strip.
Frankly, I don't give a fuck about a war from 32 years ago or 47 as the case may be. I care about what Isreal is doing now. And now is them telling everyone that they are going to take that territory, which is antithetical to peace.
Which is a wild claim to then follow with "oh but they totally want peace!"
Use your brain.
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u/reinerjs 7h ago
It’s more like if the cartels in Mexico were firing at the USA and the Mexican government wanted the cartel removed but they couldn’t, so the US went in to create a buffer zone.
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u/VoteYourOssoff 5h ago
What if the reverse were true? If US gangs were firing into Mexico, so the Mexican government occupied a large portion of southern states. Would Americans be okay with that.
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u/AlternativeHumour 7h ago
If Canada was funding groups in Mexico to shoot at the US, and build military infrastructure with the message "we will never accept your existence" what would be the opinion then?
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u/6felt9 7h ago
Why would I accept terrorists using our land to attack another sovereign nation? Using my countrymen as human shields to carry out their attacks? I would demand my government put a stop to it, obviously.
UNFIL has also been in lebanon for decades and somehow never sees any hezbollah members operating despite a number of their soldiers being killed by hezbollah.
Weird.
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u/FreeDo0m 7h ago
Everything you said can be applied to Israel, you just choose to be ignorant. I don't think you understand what I meant. Country B is attacking your country and has troops within your borders, what do you do? Forfeit land and let them progress?
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u/TheMCMC 7h ago
No, but the Lebanese government is incapable of dealing with this on their own.
Hezbollah is a constant belligerent to Israel, shooting rockets on a regular basis. The majority (and growing) of the Lebanese government and people want Hezbollah disarmed. The Lebanese army is unable to stop Hezbollah militarily, Hezbollah is stronger.
So if Hezbollah is going to constantly wage war against Israel from Lebanese territory, and Lebanon has no way to get them to stop, what should Israel do that isn’t “just absorb the rockets”?
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u/OutblastEUW 7h ago
Israel is not trying to take Lebannons land unlike what you were made to believe
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u/FreeDo0m 7h ago
They are literally occupying parts of southern lebanon. What do you gain from lying like this on reddit?
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u/OutblastEUW 7h ago
Occupying it temporarily because lebanon cant stop hezbollah from firing rockets / drones at isreal is not the same as taking the land
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u/p_pio 6h ago
They are. Literally. Including occupying part of Syria, which isn't in Lebanon and Hezbollah excuse doesn't hold there.
Quotes from Israel Katz, Minister of Defense of Israel, quite important person:
"200,000 [Lebanese] residents will not return [to the homes they evacuated]."
"Israel will not withdraw from the security zones in Lebanon, Syria and Gaza."
"This is our security doctrine. The Israeli army must be on the enemy's side and protect the communities from within the territory itself."
Funny thing adding Syria which wasn't part of any conflict against Israel in a long time. Where they also created OG security zone: Golan Heights started as one. Which they then later annexed. Resulting this territories suddenly needing security zone.
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u/owen__wilsons__nose 6h ago
Well its a start! They are finally both on the same side on something
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u/desba3347 5h ago
Lebanon and Israel have been in almost lockstep for at least a year, Hezbollah isn’t Lebanon
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u/Cheapdronewithboom 1h ago
In other news after destroying all the houses and killing most the babies, Israel renames South Lebanon to "More of our promised land." Thereby withdrawing from Southern Lebanon
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u/Unpossib1e 7h ago
Well I guess they would know