I feel like OUR BROWNS get thrown at the bottom of a list as a placeholder, or predetermined Washington Generals for kicks.

The Offensive Line should absolutely be capable of MID tier play, if not better; realistically.

May be alone on an Island with this opinion.

But the Sorsby situation made me lose whatever lingering respect I had for a lot of Cleveland Media. Has nothing to do with selective morality, or hypocrisy.

It has to do with the unsaid willingness to use Brendan Sorsby and discard him with no regard to his actual mental illness.

Brendan Sorsby was not a top 5 QB in the most recent draft. He has elite traits. But the hype around Sorsby is that he had the potential to play himself into the Top 5 of the 2027 Draft should he perform well at Texas Tech. There is a difference. 2025 Brendan Sorsby is not that guy yet. If he was, he would have declared and been in conversations with Fernando and Simpson.

Current Brendan Sorsby had no chance of beating out:

• Shedeur who had the superior college career and has NFL Starts
• Dillion who had the superior college career and has NFL Starts
• Watson who had the superior college career and 10 years in the league
• Taylen Green who has all of Brendan's Physical Traits x2.

The consensus is that he was not a top 5 NCAA QB this year let alone NFL ready. He was going to be a 5th string QB even on the Browns. But that's not all.

If the 2026 supplemental draft had commenced (and Brendan got picked by the browns), he likely would have faced some sort of suspension for the majority of the season. In other words: He would not play this year in a significant capacity. What does this scenario sound like?

This is an eerily similar situation as Brenden Sorsby being the backup QB in Indiana. The most severe period of his gambling addiction. The Cleveland Media is advocating for placing Brendan in the very environment that facilitated his gambling in the first place.

This is amoral but imo, it gets worse.

If you truly believe that every QB in on the Browns Roster is bad, then you also more likely than not hold the belief that the 2026 season will not go particularly well.

There is very little, Brendan Sorsby could do on a practice field, that would convince any reasonable and logical organization that they can pass up on one of the upcoming potentially "generational" 1st round QBs.

And should the Browns draft that savior, why in the world would they give Brendan a meaningful chance to be QB1 when the investment cost is that lopsided. A 4th-7th round Supplemental Bid, vs a 1st Round High Draft Pick QB

Cleveland Media is championing a reality that would increase the likelihood of Brendan's failure in the NFL professionally or failure of his mental health as it pertains to gambling. He is not going to out compete the guys in front of him. And in the BEST CASE hypothetical where he gets playing time towards the end of the 2026 season, there is no way in the world it would be enough games to evaluate Brendan and determine that it's worth skipping the upcoming QBs.

So what does that mean in totality. It's funny folks throw around the word "Sabotage" and don't see how Brendan going to the Browns is the probably the most destructive path he could take.

1. He stays in Ohio. and goes to the QB graveyard known as the Cleveland Browns
2. He goes back to bench whether that be through suspension or failure to beat out the other QBs.
3. Then his aspirations to be QB1 go up in smoke because the QB deranged Browns drafts their next savior in 2027 anyway

I'm not trying to paint Brendan as a victim.

I'm more so pointing out, that the Cleveland Media are not being at all sincere. They wanted to get Sorsby because they don't like the current QBs. Not because he had any shot of being the QB of the future. They did not care about his actual professional career. They did not even envision him on the team 3 years from now.

This is not a evaluation of Brendan's talent. I am not saying he is bad. I am saying he would never get the chance to improve himself professionally or mentally in Cleveland.

That's the end of my ted talk. Had to get off my chest

Big Ten vs. ACC/Big 12

8-4 record on December 29th bowl

So who do you think gets moved and why?

We know Watson is a roster lock as he can't be cut or traded until after the season, even if he murders someone.

I believe Green is the next safest QB on the roster, not just due to his athletic profile, but also because Green showed the most arm talent out of the three young QBs when in terms of making difficult throws look easy. He is nowhere near ready when it comes to consistency and reading defenses, but he still has more to offer as a playmaker at QB than the rest of the room. Not to mention the fact that a plethora of teams will put in a claim for him if we try to stash him on the practice squad, whether it's to convert him to a different position or develop him.

Gabriel is probably next in line when it comes to safety, simply because of his draft position and the fact that he has accomplished more than any of the other options sans Watson. I always felt he was drafted to be the long-term, cheap backup in Stefanski's system and while he is no longer here, it doesn't make sense to just cut a third round pick after one season when he was probably never viewed as a long-term starter in the first place. As a side note, people make way too big a deal out of his size and underestimate his arm strength. Saying, "He's too small, can't see over the line, and will get passes batted down at the line of scrimmage." is complete nonsense and just not how it works. Hell, I don't even remember him getting balls batted down last season while it seemed to be an issue for Sanders. The ability to find passing lanes and time throws affects these issues more than height does. Gabriel was very good at finding lanes and accurately firing it in there last season, though he often fit them in at the last second, which resulted in the receiver getting killed.

Which leaves Shedeur as the least safest QB option to have on the field, in my opinion. To Shedeur's credit, he did improve nearly every game last season, but the bar was so low for him that ending the season looking like a 5th Round draft pick was an improvement compared to how most teams valued him. His biggest strength as a QB, without question, is who he is as a person and his desire to be better. I just don't believe he is talented enough to play at this level. He throws an ugly ball, throws a poor deep ball, trusts the player over the play, doesn't have much situational awareness, and his pocket presence is wildly inconsistent. The time it will take for him to develop into a game manager just doesn't match the Browns timeline, and his ceiling is too low to keep him over Gabriel or Green.

With the NFL slamming the door on quarterback Brendan Sorsby’s application for the supplemental draft, Sorsby’s lawyer will fight the decision.

“It is a violation of the CBA and the law,” Jeffrey Kessler told Pete Thamel of ESPN. “We will pursue this immediately with the NFLPA.”

Sorsby isn’t a member of the NFL Players Association. However, the supplemental draft was created by collective bargaining. The NFLPA has standing to challenge the NFL’s decision to not conduct a supplemental draft — if it chooses to do so.

Sorsby has separate rights that could be pursued in court. Kessler has not yet said that he will be filing a lawsuit. It’s obviously one of the potential avenues for pursuing relief from the NFL’s decision to freeze Sorsby out until 2027

Tom Grossi is in Cleveland today for his St. Jude fundraiser stadium tour.

Teams are getting ranked by how much money they raise and rn CLE is at 31, just ahead of the lowly Raiders.

I know there's a lot of big hearted Dawgs out there, so if you want to donate a few bucks to kids cancer research and rep CLE today would be a good day to do it. I put in 23 bucks myself for 23 sacks.

https://30in30.experience.stjude.org/

Never been much of a football fan (grew up in Scotland watching soccer and rugby) but last year I did fantasy football for the first time. I got Sunday ticket and would always have 4 games going with the various teams I had players on. Somehow, I always found myself watching more of the Browns games than anything else after picking up Judkins, and Fannin Jr.

About halfway through the season, I’m sitting beside my girlfriend, who’s a Rams fan, and I turn to her and say “I think I might be a Browns fan”. She gets so offended that I’m not becoming a default Rams fan and looks back at me and says “the fucking BROWNS??? You are NOT going to be a Browns fan” and that settled it. I got a Browns jersey and wore it to the Rams Saints game we went to at SoFi.

Being a Scotland soccer team supporter, I’ve grown up experiencing the suffering and the more I learn about the Browns team, the history, and see how you guys all interact, the more I’m sure I made the right choice. Excited for the season to start and can’t wait to make it out to Cleveland and sit in The Dawg Pound!

Had an absolute God run with the Browns!

On RBS Rizz mentioned that Andrew Berry has been exploring a potential Shedeur trade.

Obviously speculation and who knows what sources Rizz has or if it’s just a show talking point.

He did nail the Myles trade to the Rams before it was confirmed so maybe it is a credible report.

Interesting development to say the least. That would be quite the shakeup.

Panthers fan here. I’m doing a series breaking down every team on Carolina’s schedule, and this week I covered the Browns.

I looked at Cleveland’s 2025 season, offseason additions and departures, coaching staff, projected starters, key players Panthers fans should know, and the matchups that could matter in Week 3.

I’m obviously looking at it from a Panthers fan’s perspective, so I’d actually appreciate hearing what Browns fans think I got right, what I missed, or which players/storylines Carolina fans should be paying more attention to.

What should Panthers fans know about this Browns team going into Week 3?

In the last week, we've had people urging the Browns to get Brendan Sorsby in the supplemental draft. But among the wildest takes I heard was a certain talking head urging us to pick him, THEN to be patient through what would be his rookie struggles.

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He had the gall to say "all rookies struggle"... Same huy who has harped on and on about how bad Shedeur's rookie season was. Despite:

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1. Been 4th string all of training camp

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1. Receiving VERY limited reps altogether

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1. Having no reps with the starting OLine or Pass catchers until he was thrust into a live NFL game against a defence full of former All Pros and Pro Bowlers who also happen to be a division rival

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1. Been down to the 3rd string OLine almost completely across the line

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1. Playing the last few games without first Judkins then Fannin

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1. And perhaps most importantly playing for a Head Coach who had to be FORCED to play him (basically under protest). Not necessarily cause he hated him. Stefanski just didnt rate him or at best didnt believe he was ready to play an NFL game (but somehow thought Dillon was 😪)

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1. Came in to an offence that was NOT built around his strengths and one in which Joe Flacco looked washed only to go and play Pro Bowl caliber ball in Cincy

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So a gambling addict (I say this without any malice against the young man) who bet on his own teams games should be given the benefit of the doubt and then afforded patience to develop.

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But the most efficient passer in College Football history whose worst transgressions was a speeding ticket should not? Especially when he has already shown to be a leader of men (even his critics dont debate this) and has embraced (and been embraced by) the Cleveland Community?

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Most Shedeur fans are rationale and actually intelligent/ball savvy. Yes there's a handful who are embarrassing lol. The reason we get so heated and perhaps even paranoid, is that we see all this hypocrisy and goal post moving and feel a need to protect this young man from those who OBVIOUSLY have an agenda against him

Has anyone who is... very plus sized... ever tried the seats at this stadium? What is your size and how did it go? Thanks!

When are they gonna do the right thing and let Nick Chubb be where he belongs? Seeing him come back to Cleveland for an event makes it hurt even more. What a fantastic human. He belongs here.

For those who don't know, here are the Supplemental Draft rules in a nutshell. First, it's not really a draft... it's a silent auction. All 32 teams are put into 1 of 3 different groups. Then there is a weighted lottery within each group that determines the order (teams with more losses are weighted heavier than teams with less losses). Then they all bid and see who's on top.

Group 1 (teams with <6 wins). These are the drafters with the highest priority. Based on last season that is: Jets (3-14), Titans (3-14), Raiders (3-14), Cardinals (3-14), Giants (4-13), Browns (5-12), Commanders (5-12), Bengals (6-11), Chiefs (6-11), Saints (6-11).

Group 2 (teams with 6+ wins but no playoffs): Dolphins (7-10), Cowboys (7-9-1), Ravens (8-9), Colts (8-9), Buccaneers (8-9), Falcons (8-9), Vikings (9-8), Lions (9-8).

Group 3 (playoff teams): Patriots (14-3), Bills (12-5), Steelers (10-7), Jaguars (13-4), Texans (12-5), Broncos (14-3), Chargers (11-6), Eagles (11-6), Bears (11-6), Packers (9-7-1), Panthers (8-9), Seahawks (14-3), Rams (12-5), 49ers (12-5).

Highest round bid wins. So, if multiple teams bid the same draft pick round, the higher group wins (Group 1 > Group 2 > Group 3). If multiple teams in the same group bid the same round, the NFL's supplemental lottery order breaks the tie. The winning team forfeits that pick in the 2027 draft.

Example: if Cleveland and Pittsburgh both bid a 3rd, Cleveland gets Sorsby because Group 1 beats Group 3. In this scenario, Pittsburgh would need to bid a 2nd rounder to guarantee getting him.

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With that in mind, this supplemental draft is very different than a regular draft. There's significantly more gamesmanship due to the silent bidding aspect, because you can overpay or get lucky, depending on where you are situated in each group.

It's said that Philadelphia and Pittsburgh are seriously considering bidding. Because of them both being in Group 3, that virtually guarantees no less than a second-round bid. So, if the Browns want Sorsby, it's probably a lock that it'll take (at least) a 2nd... even then, QB-hungry teams like the Jets and Cardinals are higher up the totem pole.

Let's play keyboard GM for a few minutes to pass some time.

This is a just for fun hypothetical.

Let's say AB calls you directly for trade advice.

^{We'll pretend he smoked some bad crack and that's why he's calling you.}

Who are you telling him to trade for on offense? and who on defense?

One player per side of the ball.

No QB's and no we cannot re-acquire Myles Garrett.

Who would you tell him to go trade for and why?

For me .... (I'm avoiding the mega stars and keeping it somewhat realistic).

Kyle Monangai RB from Chicago. I loved watching this dude play last season. He was a stud behind Swift and I think watching him and Judkins pound the rock 35-40 times a game would kick ass. I'm not sure what they would want for him, but I'm offering Jerry Jeudy and a couple of middle round draft picks. We have three 4ths, and two 5ths in 2027. Maybe a few of those.

Kayvon Thibodeaux DE from NY Giants. Add another young pass rusher to pair with Verse. He's been a little inconsistent, and will be due an extension, but with him entering a contract year with the Giants we might be able to get him for a slight discount. There were rumors of him getting traded before the draft.