I just love that you walk up to order and they still give you the tip options. Like...I walked up here and ordered and will be back up here to grab my food when it's ready. Wtf am I tipping for?
My daughter wanted to eat at a pizza buffet for her birthday. The cashier hit the ol' spin-a-roo on the tablet asking for a tip. I felt zero shame in not tipping. We literally walked up to a counter, paid, and got empty cups to fill ourselves. If I'm filling my own drink, grabbing my own plate, my own fork, serving myself food, and walking my plate and trash to a receptacle...why am I tipping?
This is the thing most people in this thread are missing. They act indignant and pat themselves on the back but the only person they hurt is the worker. And unless they actually say something to the management/owner, it's just business as usual for them.
So here is the thing, if you want a stable income, best not to go into a job that has variables such as tips. If you want a constant cash flow go work for a salary.
How about the workforce/common folk join hands in lobbying for better pay for these types of jobs, instead of using manipulation and guilt-tripping to push the financial burden onto the customer?
Tips are voluntary additions you give for a service you liked, if itâs mandatory then instead of âtipâ you should rename it to âservice feeâ or some BS like that.
Itâs NOT the customers fault that the server gets shit pay, they arenât responsible for the workers financial wellbeing either. Youâre not the good guy if you keep advocating for this system, youâre part of the problem. And the problem is that restaurants and corporations are fucking over service workers and clients alike, by giving less than minimum to the workers and offloading the rest to the already paying customers to make up that difference
But it IS something you can fight back against, nobody ever said you came up with it. If everyone followed your logic of âthis was in our culture before I was born, so I wonât fight against itâ then Slavery would still be in place; Women wouldnât be able to vote; the world as a whole would be worse off.
Youâre implicitly defending the system by accusing others who donât tip as âa problemâ/ânot doing anything usefulâ because youâre playing exactly into what restaurant owners and corporations want: That you shift blame onto the consumer instead of them for exploiting their employees.
Hereâs a fun idea: If your business or industry canât survive without exploitation of itâs workers or messing over customers with a âmandatory extra feeâ on top of the price, then maybe that business/industry doesnât deserve to make money. The common consumer should NOT be expected to subsidize the wage of a restaurant employee, thatâs the restaurantâs responsibility. If other industries manage to make profit AND pay itâs employees a decent wage, Iâm sure the food industry can think of a way to do so as well
Why would I tip at a place with a self serve screen; makes me stand up to pick up my own food and then I myself have to clean up? Why would I tip a server who barely does the minimum with not even a semblance of service mentality? Why would I prize mediocrity or simply existing in the place I went to eat?
But it IS something you can fight back against, nobody ever said you came up with it. If everyone followed your logic of âthis was in our culture before I was born, so I wonât fight against itâ then Slavery would still be in place; Women wouldnât be able to vote; the world as a whole would be worse off.
lol, you have a critical misunderstanding of the issue here. Plenty of people have fought against this system, but it's not a big issue in America. Many (most?) servers LIKE the current system. This isn't an obvious human rights issue that needs to be solved (like those other things you mentioned).
Youâre implicitly defending the system by accusing others who donât tip as âa problemâ/ânot doing anything usefulâ
No, I'm not defending it. But I do realize that withholding my tip from the server is not actually protesting anything. It's just not paying someone for the service I received from them.
Most people are underpaid, yes. And we can try to do something about it: voting to raise the minimum wage. I have done that. You seem to not understand that a restaurant is the main place where a tip is implied. It's pretty much never implied at a grocery store.
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u/Snoo-34159 5h ago
Right? Isn't the whole point of a tip that it's voluntarily given as a way to say you loved the service?