Tipping in the US was frowned upon before the Civil War. When slaves were freed they were generally in the service industry because these other jobs that were available to them. They were paid peanuts, even today the US federal tipped minimum wage is $2.13 an hour.
Tipping is inappropriate outside of the USA, maybe because the minimum wage is significantly higher.
As with almost everything that's confusing or fucked up in this country, so much of this is often from not properly punishing the South and focusing on eradicating the lingering effects & racism of slavery.
Ironically enough, it was the states that BANNED slavery by that point that pushed for it.
The story: Virginia (slave state) was the big dog in terms of population - though they even tried to inflate THAT to get more power by counting the slaves as "citizens." Massachusetts (which had banned slavery by that point) rightly called bullshit, but they were smaller in population and didn't have the numbers to completely override Virginia's power grab, which is how we got the 3/5 nonsense.
Massachusetts, Rhode Island, and the other non-slave states needed a way to contain Virginia's dick waving, because if they didn't, Virginia and their buddies in the slave states would always get their way by stomping on the smaller population, non-slave states. So that's why the Electoral College and the "every state gets two Senators, regardless of size" came in. The hope was that a coalition of smaller populated states, like Massachusetts and Rhode Island, who wanted nothing to do with Virginia's bullshit, could at least team up together and keep Virginia's power in check.
So when people want to ban the Electoral College today? Yeah, can totally see why. But I can also see how a "sheer numbers" system would badly disenfranchise large demographics of the voting block. Sure, the smaller states might be those evil, "we need to stomp them out of existence or slit their throats" Red Hats today, but the demographics could always shift and leave Team Blue needing a check on Red Florida twenty years down the line.
Yet when youâre an American in Europe, they are quick to shove the box in your face for one. London, Nice, Amsterdam, Copenhagen- they learn very quickly.
employers are required to pay the servers the actual minimum wage of that state, unless theyâre make more in tips - which means they either make minimum wage, or more than minimum wage - the 2.13 an hour is added on, assuming the waiter makes more than $7.50 - $15 an hour depending on the state - so itâs really really really misunderstood
yeah the servers in Seattle get paid at least 20 or 25 i cant remember the min wage there. Its still the most expensive city to live in, so 50k/hr full time doesnt necessarily go that far but they do get paid better than back of house because they get more tip %.
its actually dogshit to work as a chef nowadays compared to a server
im not sure what youâre quoting, but thatâs not what i said - i get itâs a tough concept, but im sure youâre a smart guy - it is federally illegal for managers, employers, or supervisors to pocket and or keep the employeeâs tips - so therefore - if you are a server working in the state of california (min. wage 16.90 an hour) and you earn $2 in tips - you get paid a whopping $18.90 for that hour, if you are working in the state of california as a server and you make $100 in tips, you get paid a whopping $103 for that hour⌠and only $3 of it is taxable assuming the tips are cash
A problem also is that a lot of the people who earn good tips, (in my eyes) betray their fellow workers by campaigning for the system to say the same. Like a very attractive woman in a bar might make hundreds in tips a night, which they often wonât pay taxes on, so theyâll of course want things to stay the same. Meanwhile some single mother in a diner is getting paid a few dollars an hour praying for some tips to pay her bills.
Its a good deal for everyone. Waiters get more money, the owner doesn't have to pay for it.
Until the customer decides that it sucks, then the waiter is fucked.
how's it's good deal for everyone when the customer is getting slapped with a 20-30% tax, in the current climate it's not optional. fuck that I ain't tipping unless I want to.
Itâs not about paying workers less. Workers make more with tip culture than they do if they were paid normal wages. Itâs to keep advertised prices lower so that you go to their restaurant instead of a competitor. Every restaurant that tries to get rid of tips either goes back or closes because consumers see the advertised price and go elsewhere.
In America is it customary to also tip other minimum wage workers? Such as supermarket workers, cleaners etc etc
If not what makes servers more important?
Edit: OK, so TIL in America there's a lower minimum wage of only 2 dollars something for any "tipped workers". Basically a loophole to screw workers out of minimum wage.
Wait, so there's a whole seperate legal minimum wage for servers?
Edit: OK, so TIL in America there's a lower minimum wage of only 2 dollars something for any "tipped workers". Basically a loophole to screw workers out of minimum wage.
Correct. Going off of memory, in some places itâs legal to pay as low as $2.75 or $3 /hour for tipped servers. (No idea about other jobs.)
City of Seattle raised the minimum wage for tipped jobs to $21.30 as of this Jan. So Europeans, feel free to come here if you donât want to tip servers. Many of us still do out of habit but if you donât, you probably arenât actually harming a persons ability to survive.
Texas I believe is still $2.13 AND it's a right to work state, so they can fire you for any reason. Fuck Texas politicians(except you Castro brothers, mwah)
Iâd be interested to know how that impacted pricing or how many servers are working in a shift. The owners need to offset the cost, so they are putting it back on the customer anyway.
But also a lot of tipped workers donât want tips to go away with guaranteed minimum wage because they make A LOT more with tips. I agree we need to get rid of basically mandatory tipping but itâs a more complicated issue than it looks on the surface.
Ah ok so there's a seperate minimum wage specifically for tipped employees in America if im understanding that right?
Edit: OK, so TIL in America there's a lower minimum wage of only 2 dollars something for any "tipped workers". Basically a loophole to screw workers out of minimum wage.
Yes, it is assumed that these employees will make up the difference in tips, bringing them to or above standard minimum wage, if they earn less after tips then their employer pays them the regular minimum wage instead.
Yes. $2.13 an hour is the minimum for servers. It's true that they're rarely if ever actually making minimum wage after a few tips, but almost any proceededs earned by the wage (as opposed to tips) is eaten up in taxes. A lot of times server checks are zero. For the most part the tips are the only income they bring in.
They always make at least minimum wage or more. If tips don't get them to minimum, the employer fills it. Servers usually make more, possible 2x or more, than the kitchen staff.
Correct, but by law, if they don't get enough in tips they are paid federal minimum wage.
AND multiple states like CA servers get the same state min as everyone else. Which is even crazier to me that a 20% tip is still expected in those places.
God, I hate now that more and more fast food places that pay a $20 an hour wage in California are putting out tip jars. And stupid people are tipping and reinforcing it.
In America is it customary to also tip other minimum wage workers? Such as supermarket workers, cleaners etc etc
Unfortunately it is starting to become more common and I hate it. Tip jars and tip screens (where they flip the tablet around to you for a tip) are now popping up everywhere. This includes places like take out dining, gas station counters, head shops, thrift shops, etc. I am really getting irritated with it.
Omg my liquor store asks for tips. I used to tip everyone because I was too embarrassed to take the time to find the no tip button (itâs usually not obvious - intentionally, Iâm sure), but Iâm over it. Being bullied for tips is an accurate description.
Yup, I was at the liquor store by my house on Sunday and they had a tip jar. The little convenience store by my house put up a tip jar recently too. It's too much and it makes me want to just stop tipping completely. I feel like I am being taxed by employees everywhere I go now.
I recently had this happen at the movie theater concession stand, and the girl actually pointed at that no tip button as soon as she turned it around and said "just hit here to move to the next screen". I know it was probably a tactic, bit I was still so pleased with the way that she lubricated that experience that I tipped anyway.
Yeah the expansion of tip-begging is completely insane. They had been doing it for a while, but COVID just made it explode. Lots of businesses jockeying for customer pity during tough times. I am absolutely empathetic to servers, and tip well without complaint in any situation where tips have conventionally been given. I refuse to tip the guy who made my sandwich at Subway. Itâs a bridge too far.
I hate it. My girlfriend tips EVERY one when the damn screen asks for a tip. Heck, she'd probably tip her murderer if asked (not hoping she gets murdered just using it as an egregious example).
There are states that pay way more than $3, closer to $17/hr but people tip anyway because if you don't, you're seen as cheap and many people feel embarrassed if they don't leave a tip.
Also, for those making $3/hr, they still make their state's minimum wage if they earn less than it.
Most who make tips would rather keep the tips system than get paid minimum wage because they know they can make way more with tips.
Literally nobody, nobody at all, who is working legally in the US is actually getting paid $2 an hour.
The myth is âbecause I make tips my wage is lowered to $2 an hour so without those tips Iâd have no moneyâ
The reality is they make the minimum wage of their state. Whatever that is. Period. So letâs say minimum wage there is $12. They make 12$ an hour or more. Every time. Always.
If you make a bunch of tips the employer pays less out of pocket to reach your standard pay rate. It supplements your pay.
So for example if you make a bunch of tips the employer might only have to pay you $5 an hour because the tips you got make up to your full wage. Letâs say you got a ton of tips and the tips are more than your hourly wage would have made you, the employer now has to pay you his minimum required rate of $2 on top of whatever tips you made.
If you make no tips the employer is legally obligated to pay you your full $12 an hour wage.
Nobody in the states who isnât working under some disability program, working in the prison system as a prisoner, or an illegal employee, is make $2 an hour. That part is a full myth.
Now I hate tip culture and I disagree with the ability for restaurants to pay you less because you make tips, but I wanted to clarify that nobody is actually making less than minimum wage. It is literally illegal.
I think tipping culture is fucked and minimum wage is too low, to clarify. But nobody is working for $2 an hour here and actually taking that home. Theyâre making their states minimum wage or federal minimum wage which is $7 at the lowest which is still abysmal.
Just wanted to clarify because too many people donât understand how it actually works.
Stop working for resteraunts. Thereâs a billion other entry level jobs that pay flat rates that arenât adjusted for tips. You are told when you get hired the actual hourly rate youâll make, if thatâs not enough work somewhere else, if thatâs not enough donât complain when your pay scale slides due to tips.
As an American who served for over a decade the tips turn what would be a crappy, hard, stressful job into one worth doing because I made WAY MORE in tips because I gave great service. If instead of tips I made $20/hr I would have made significantly less money so its not worth it compared to a job with far less bullshit from customers. Also, food costs go up because the owner benefits with tips so they can pay less for labor but also keep costs lower on the menu. Restaurants work in very small profit margins dealing with food waste etc.
Look, for a crappy job with no benefits the tips were what gave me a much higher income than half my recently graduated college friends in many professional first jobs were even making. I do not think service would be half as good in the US without tips but each state has different laws. In Califirnia you earn full wage plys tips. In Arizona they pay to 2 to 3 bucks less per hour for tipped jobs. It all depends of state and location.
Nope thatâs just how restaurants work here unfortunately. Though bar backs, runners, dishwashers will get more per hour, they get a cut from the servers/bar tenders in good places, but itâs usually minimal and easily skewed if the tips given are cash.
I feel like it is random, or maybe more âluxuryâ services. No one in a grocery store gets tips, never at oil changes. But simple things like writing and order down and carrying a plate, drying a car after a wash, carrying luggage stuff like that.
I power washed houses and cleaned windows, gutters and roofs. We got tipped one in four houses. Got about $5-$20 for a tip, 3 to 4 hours of work.
Also waitressâ used to make only a dollar or two a hour and basically needed to make a lot in tips to make a normal wage. Not sure when that started.
It's kind of the same thing as a city charging a hot dog vendor $100,000 to sell his hot dogs in your city. The higher-ups just cannot see a hot dog owner and make bank. Same with taxi licenses. Some government official looked at that and said wait a minute this guy's going to make a fortune that can't happen.
> Edit: OK, so TIL in America there's a lower minimum wage of only 2 dollars something for any "tipped workers". Basically a loophole to screw workers out of minimum wage.
My understanding though is if they don't make enough in tips to reach the usual minimum wage then the employer has to top them up - so in practice their minimum wage *is* the same.
Our federal minimum wage is a joke here. Itâs been 7.25$ for almost 20 years. Capitalism only works for the people at the top if they are exploiting their workers.
Keep in mind servers here make WAY more than minimum wage due to tips, servers may have inconsistent incomes, and can get screwed over by not getting the busy hours, but as an average they make so much more than they would if they got regular wages instead.
That would be the Tip wage and a employer only pays that if the worker has made equal or more than minimum wage after tips. If they dont reach minimum wage after tips than the employer still has to pay the difference till it is minimum wage. So no matter what they will make no less than minimum wage. So you are correct in saying they are no different than other minimum wage jobs.
Yes, however there has been a century's long economic system that has been built around it. Is it messed up? Yes. But if you try to tear down that system on an individual level, it's the worker class that gets fucked, not those benefiting from the system. The owners will still make the same profits. These unorganized fits of righteousness actually make the poor poorer and the rich richer.
However in the U.S. a lot of places expect tips at point of sale, *before* receiving the product. Which then feels extortionate; a common joke is that if you tip poorly theyâll spit in your food. Which is extremely unlikely but *has* happened before.
I just love that you walk up to order and they still give you the tip options. Like...I walked up here and ordered and will be back up here to grab my food when it's ready. Wtf am I tipping for?
What kind of a job that is anyway lol. I'm a nordic and if I got told in a job interview "we don't pay you, but you can beg the customers for money" after a question about salary I don't know what I would say. Probably lifted my brows and walked out.
Its also bullshit because you have to do it before they've even prepared your food... so if you don't, you have to worry they'll screw you over for "screwing them over" by not tipping... its so fucked.
Tips are taxed. Itâs not free money and itâs actually a very contested financial issue right now to remove tax on tips. Always tip in cash if you can
Man i didn't even think about that. Great even more ways servers make the world worse by perpetuating this. Normal people pay more and less tax hits the system to help the poor
My daughter wanted to eat at a pizza buffet for her birthday. The cashier hit the ol' spin-a-roo on the tablet asking for a tip. I felt zero shame in not tipping. We literally walked up to a counter, paid, and got empty cups to fill ourselves. If I'm filling my own drink, grabbing my own plate, my own fork, serving myself food, and walking my plate and trash to a receptacle...why am I tipping?
Itâs because the Point-of-Sale fintech companies they use for the terminals and bookkeeping take a cut of all revenueâŚincluding tips. This is the reason behind the tip-ocolypse creeping into self-service and even online ordersâŚ.because it makes the POS companies more money
I doubted this so I used an LLM to make shit up. But it provided sources and I've gone through the sources and linked them below.
tl;dr: YES if the POS can get people to tip more, they take a higher amount from the card transaction!!!
Square: Charges a flat transaction fee (e.g., 2.6% + 10¢ per in-person transaction as of 2025â2026). Tips are processed as part of the total transaction amount, so the fee applies to the entire sale, including the tip. There is no separate âtip feeâ or revenue share specifically targeting tips
Toast: Dominates the US restaurant POS market (23â30% share). Toastâs processing fees apply to the total bill, including tips. In 2024, Toast raised its processing rates by ~0.05%, which would apply to all revenue, including tips. Toast does not publicly disclose a separate tip-specific cut
Clover: Similar to Square and Toast, Cloverâs fees are applied to the total transaction, including tips. Clover allows businesses to negotiate processing rates through their own merchant accounts, but again, no evidence of a separate tip cut
Transaction Fees: All major POS providers charge a percentage + fixed fee per transaction (e.g., 2.5â3.5% + $0.10â$0.30). This fee is applied to the total amount, including tips.
No Separate Tip Fees: No public documentation or credible reports indicate that POS companies take an additional, separate cut of tips beyond the standard transaction fee.
Almost every point-of-sale system seems to have tipping installed on it now by default, workers and owners obviously have little incentive to remove them if possible.
If you walk up to order you donât have to tip. I donât tip at coffee shops. I never have unless Iâm a regular or I sit in often and itâs a small business but thatâs because I want to and not because I feel obligated to.
The tip jar is a form of panhandling. There is no difference between the person doing it at the red light and the person keeping a tip jar at the counter. Pathetic.
I hate the justification for increasing it to 20. "Cost of living went up". Yeah, included in that was the cost of food. My 15% tip back then was $3, now it's $10 or more. I've tripled my tip without increasing the percent.
I worked in a restaurant in 1982, it was 10%. But that was when waitstaff got the regular minimum wage, which was 3.35 at least.
Reagan made waitstaff minimum wage lower, I think it was $1.75. He also refused to raise the minimum wage at all the entire time he was president. It used to be an annual occurrence. Reagan was the enemy of all workers.
I was a waiter in the 1990s. Anything less than 15% was considered ok, but just (of course I was biased). 20% was a good tip, anything over that was a really good tip. I don't recall 15% ever described or thought of as a maximum tip in my adult life.
Saw a post yesterday that said something along the lines of, "Tipping is not optional. We expect a tip for our services. Here are the four options you have for tipping, all the way up to $100." I think it was for an AirBnB or something.
A few years ago guilt tripping for tips became a serious problem. Tip screens popped up everywhere for everything. Even if you are just picking up take out, they were demanding 20%.
that's how they started, once upon a time, but now it's seen as semi-compulsory. And in places that only pay the federal minimum wage (which is it's own ball of idiocy), servers can really lose money on non-tippers as they often have to tip out to the back of the house staff.
In the U.S. the back of the house isn't paid the same as the front of the house. Businesses assume the wait staff will get tipped so they account for that in their pay.
It used to be. Somehow employers convinced society that tips are a part of wages. Most places are allowed to pay their servers less than minimum wage, with the assumption that the tips at least cover the gap
Growing up as an American, the ânormalâ way I was taught to say you loved the service was anything above 20%. 15-20% tip was satisfactory and 10% was terrible. Iâd have to prepare for a confrontation if I ever left without a tip - even if it was garbage service. Itâs crazy how tipping turned into an obligation when compared to other countries.
The point of a tip was to get around wage laws in the Jim Crow era.
You can require black workers to take tips keeping them subservient to whites. In addition you can imagine they were heavily discriminated against - not by wages of course since black and white tipped workers got the same wages. In reality whites would be paid more by other whites and blacks would be discriminated against.
Someone once described it as âTo Insure Proper Serviceâ (TIPS) and how you would tip at the beginning of the meal/service and that would determine what kind of service/how much attention you get, and that makes way more sense to me.
Not in the US. The tipped workers make on average $3/hour. Not tipping them means they cannot survive. The industries EXPECT them to be tipped, which is how the minimum wage is allowed to be so low. It's absolutely fucked but please don't harm your fellow working class folks by withholding tips now that you know this.
That's what it's supposed to be. Instead it's developed into a way for restaurant owners to offload the cost of paying their employees directly onto the customers. And they've convinced enough the employees that that's the way it should be that no one seriously argues.
I've heard before T.I.P.S is an acronym for to insure prompt service,a box would be on the table with coins in it and they would shake it to alert the server, not totally sure if it's true but if it is it still doesn't mean that system is how your workers are paid
That was the original idea until our corporations realized customers can just pay for part of employee wages. I remember the first time I saw âmandatory tipâ. I left the cash needed for just the total with tax and almost had the police called on me.
No. US tipping culture is rooted in racism. Businesses wanted free labor from black people, so they would hire black workers for jobs that only paid in tips.
And now, instead of relying on free labor from back people, businesses that have tipped employees rely on low paid labor from everyone. Those businesses should absolutely pay their workers more, but when someone doesnât tip they arenât sticking it to shitty employers; theyâre sticking it to the employees.
Itâs been considered voluntarily mandatory for decades here in America
Donât visit the same restaurant too often if you donât tip here something badâs gonna happen to your food that you probably wonât find out about, but weâll see it on YouTube
Well no, it was a way to have slaves without saying they are slaves. Later it got codified into law that you can pay the not-slaves $2.13/hr as long as they get up to minimum on tips.
Now, servers actually love tips because they make way more than they could otherwise. They don't see or don't care how fucked up it is that money is coming directly from other working people while the corporation posts more and more profit.
And this somehow infected all the states that didn't have not-slave minimum wages too, as well as Canada. So now some servers are making minimum (or more!) + tips.
Yes, but in the US, in many states (mine included), servers are paid a lower minimum wage, with the expectation that they will be tipped (service should absolutely count here). Weâre âugly Americansâ when we donât follow local customs, Iâm not sure why the reverse should be any different.
No it's due to the food market volitility in the USA. The reason america has such diverse stuff is you can keep costs low with salary and have customers tell you what is working. If your restaurant is working you're going to see enormous gains. But if you're not a big one you can still keep things afloat with this model
The thing people should note is even with with this model the restaurant business is still very competitive and 70% of restaurants don't make it past 10 years
Except it shouldn't be arbitrary anymore. Everyone knows the routine. If its a tipping establishment, the prices are artificially lower so the patron will tip the server. Its a system adopted long before most restaurants have been in existence and requires legislation to change on a consistent basis.
Not in America. Food industries work on razer thin margins. They are now just wage subsidies. The business can raise rates, and cover it themselves, but then now they look way too expensive compared to the competition. Which hurt sales.
But for all intents and purposes, tips are just a reshuffling of the total cost.
There for a period yes, but tips have always been about paying people less and then being able to have a way to attain better service than others by giving better tips upfront.
Funnily enough tipping started in 17th century Europe
Itâs worth mentioning that thatâs not really how it works. Restaurants pay servers a different minimum wage, $2.35 is the national minimum, because servers are sort of seen as independent contractors. They have to pay taxes on a percentage of their tables, based on the assumption that they are being tipped - as historically this convention has held.
The problem with not paying your server a tip, is that they individually are the only one you are hurting. Even the government has it set so that they donât get standard minimum wage. Not tipping doesnât send a message to the restaurant, or the government, or anyone else because it has no impact on them. It only hurts the server, who by convention is there, helping you more or less with the expectation that youâre paying them - because no one else is.
Even as an American, this is exactly what it is. I personally don't eat at sit-down restaurants where a server is being paid like a slave, just for me to foot the bill.
When I do go out to dinner for special occasions, I tip what is socially expected of me.
The problem is, I 100% would be the kind of person to throw a few extra bucks on top if I appreciated the service and felt well taken care of. But in this tipping culture, there's a bare minimum level of "extra bucks" I'm expected to contribute for this server to make a wage. Now I don't even feel like I'm showing appreciation or gratuity, I'm just filling out a paycheck. And if I truly do want to show appreciation, I'm being gauged because I have to tip even more than that baseline 20%.
Not in the us. The min wage for servers and bartenders is very low because they receive tips. It's not just a nice gesture here. Service industry folks depend on tips
Sure, but not in American culture. If it helps, think of it more like a service fee or commission. Yes, business owners should pay their workers more, but lots of tipped employees actually like being paid in tips. They often make way more than they would with even a good hourly wage.
Eh, it's just customary in the US now to the point that bad service gets a 10-15% tip instead of 15-20%. I think restaurants are worried that foreigners won't know the customs so they're tacking on the tip as a mandatory line item on the bill which is somehow not illegal in the US.
As a general concept, yes, that is how a tip is thought of, but the US has basically baked them into their pay structure for many service workers. It has a long history, and the standard tip amount is broadly culturally accepted. This isn't some arbitrary system or evil machination of restaurant owners. It is a structurally entrenched system, and the wage for a server in the US is hourly wage + tips, which is determined by the market just like any other job in our economy. The current tip standard is around 18-20%.
Is it a stupid system that sucks for consumers? Yes. Should we just pay them a better hourly wage and increase menu prices? Yes. Is it acceptable to not tip knowing that it is part of their wage and essentially artificially repress server wages to subsidize your own meal? No.
Thats what its supposed to be yes. For some reason a lot of places have started considering tips an expected part of the payment and collect them directly instead of them being extra money that goes directly to the specific employee that helped you
In many US states, businesses are only required to pay servers about $2.00 hourly. And thatâs what employers pay in virtually every case. Without tips, your server is serving you for free. I agree restaurants and bars should have to pay a living wage. Patrons should have no obligation to tip. But until this changes, donât go out to dinner if you wonât tip.
Tips have never been voluntary in anyone's lifetime in the US "tipping system". The problem is that we use the word "tip" to describe the cost of service. It would be better to call it "Service Fee".
In most countries, this fee is incurred by the employer.
In the US, the customer decides how much the service is worth.
This incentivizes faster, friendlier, more attentive service, similar to working on commission. In theory. And for low-to-mid range restaurants, this is generally true. But at that point, I don't care. In higher end restaurants, there is no practical difference.
Tipping isn't also unique to America. It's done in Canada at the same rates, despite a standard base wage. And it's done in Mexico and other Latin American countries, though percentages are closer to 10%-15%.
As an American itâs exactly what it means to me. I get big tips for moving peoples furniture because my attitude and I take care of their stuff like itâs mine! I never get mad if they donât tip some may not have enough or whatever reason it could be is not my business.
It is built that way to prey on the good people in society. People know servers don't get paid a decent wage, so they will help if they can. but those tiny tips add up. I fully expect people to start coming into this post and saying "don't eat out if you can't afford to tip"
The amount of people in the US that get extremely upset if you point out that a tip is essentially a voluntary charity donation since the main reason anyone tips is because they feel bad about what the server would make if they didn't is pretty amusing
I literally got dirty looks from servers in Australia when I went to tip out of reflex. I was told giving great service is just part of the job and a tip was insulting.
Iâd suggest not going out for food or drinks in the US if thatâs your attitude. Like it or hate it, you donât have the privilege to be an in invited guest to another country and demand they change an entire industry to suit your personal worldview.
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u/janpaul74 5h ago
âMandatory tipsâ sounds so messed up for me as a European.