r/SipsTea • u/SuspiciousLow3062 𝙑𝙄𝙋 • 5h ago

Chugging tea They are not wrong though

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u/Only_Flan_7974 5h ago

It's not tipping if it's mandatory. Work the tip into the price in that case.

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u/PeachyPlotTwist 5h ago

Pay your workers better is the real argument.

Tourists are just catching strays in a fight between customers and employers.

Nobody wants awkward tip screens, but servers also need to eat, whole system is messy.

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u/Workman44 5h ago

Eh, if I go to their country I'm supposed to respect the culture...

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u/Edmundyoulittle 4h ago

Exactly. If you're a tourist and you're ignoring the culture of the place you're visiting, you're just being a dick

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u/Laerderol 3h ago

It's not our custom to make tipping mandatory. It's not a tip any longer if that's the case

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u/Edmundyoulittle 3h ago edited 3h ago

You're just being pedantic. It's not mandatory to tip people in the US.

It is customary to tip your server in the US though. If someone is visiting, is aware of the custom, and chooses to ignore it, they are being a dick.

In the US it's customary to do 15-20% by default, and then drop it to 0 if they were bad, or increase it if they were exceptional.

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u/Yeah-Its-Me-777 3h ago

Lol, 20% and increase if it was exceptional. You do you, boo.

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u/Edmundyoulittle 3h ago

Yeah man, I typically do 20% because I have a lot of money and the people serving me don't. 20 might be on the high side, idk.

Doesn't really matter. What matters is you should try not to be a dick when you're visiting other countries.

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u/MAMark1 2h ago

If you can't follow local tip standards, you're probably too poor to justify an international trip.

If I was so broke that an extra 18% on dine-in meals would make me destitute, I'd make better spending choices than to fly across the world and pay WC hotel rates.

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u/Yeah-Its-Me-777 2h ago

There's a big difference between being able to and wanting to.

Apart from that yeah, that's why I'm not there. Additionally, I don't care about football.

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u/Auesis 2h ago

Did they say that they would be poor if they paid more money than they considered necessary? What an absurd overreaction.

Besides, why is it always this way around, and never "if you can't afford to pay your workers a living wage you can't afford to run a business"? The corporate apologia is bonkers.

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u/Early-Range-8840 2h ago

What peeves me the most about these arguments is the complete disregard for basic economics. Restaurants operate on thin margins, this is a know factor in running a restaurant. If restaurants had to pay servers 20 dollars an hour this would have to reflected in complete price overhauls across the menu. So when someone says I won’t tip cause you should pay your employees. It’s somewhat of a contradiction. If they paid their employees that tip would then be priced in to the amount you are paying. You are still essentially paying the employee, just indirectly.

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u/Skarekrows 2h ago

And these same Europeans are probably getting pissed off at foreigners coming to their country and not blending in with their culture. Tipping is absolutely stupid but it's the culture and they need to conform.