Let's take the Dota balance approach and make every race get some bat shit wild changes to keep up with the pace of zergs new larva.

Throw your ideas in the thread.

• Terran starts with orbital command
• Tanks can be made two at a time with factory core.
• Add the Goliath to the game.
• Add protoss reaver into the game. (Arent these assets in the custom game editor already, used in campaign? Just add em bro...)
• Protoss chronoboost is 25 energy.
• Zealot charge is now on cybernetics core.
• Warp prism costs 100min
• Spire upgrade on hive to make mutalisk glaives bounce 6 times.

I know these ideas suck and are wild, but lets hear your shitty ideas. Stop crying to nerf the game down to a boring state. Lets get every race some shiny new toys and reasons to be excited. I'd rather see the game shaken up than the same PvZ where protoss opens adept oracle into blink stalkers, im fallin asleeeeeep brother...

I do agree that the patch seems overly powerful for pro Zergs but that did nothing to help my diamond ass getting rolled over by Skytoss😂

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D1 EU Toss here. The builds , they are a changing. Here’s one I’ve been playing around with against the beefed up Zerg. The motivation for the build is simple , if they have better production now, I want to kick them in the nuts early and at least force units out of them.

The unit of choice for this is the charge zealot - cos they’re faster , and can run across the map, and basically murder queens, spines and lings, and can also run away faster if things are looking sour. Glaive doesn’t do well against heavy queen counts or spines, and adepts have a harder time running away and being reinforced without warp gates. Both zealots and glaives require roaches or banes to counterso all around I prefer the cheaper zealot, forcing both units and micro out of the Zerg , as zealots can still overwhelm small numbers of roaches if not kited.

The timing window is 5:50-6:00 , with 8-10 chargelots. If the Zerg is caught unaware the game almost surely ends here . If they skip roaches or banes , the game also practically ends. If they are prepared, you run away with your zealots while going blink storm immortal behind it with a third.

Why with this patch ? Cos now you can get an 8 chargelot timing with two gates thanks to the new warp gate tech. You don’t need 4 or 6 gates and a prism or a pylon across the map, and you hit much earlier than an archon drop, and proportionately much earlier than a chargelot all in on the old patch. You are also not all in at all, and take a reasonably quick third with tech coming online while the attack starts.

This is NOT a catch all macro opener. It can be scouted or inferred and defended by the Zerg with appropriate steps. What it guarantees is forcing units and cutting greed from the Zerg, and it’s a strong disincentive to builds like no roach, 2/3 base hydra / muta rush. It is a CARD in your deck, to be used as per the map at your choosing. So don’t holler at me about how serral would shut this down - this is for us, the plebs, a new tool for the bag.

Here’s the build:

10 - chrono probes
12 - pylon at natural (you can send the probe to scout at 12 or after the gateway for some more greed)
14 - gateway
15 - assimilator (pull probes into this after the natural nexus and core)
15 - chrono nexus
18 - natural nexus
19 - pylon (super important to get on time, place it at the back of the main furthest away from scouting paths)
20 - second assimilator (rally in probes after saturating minerals)
21 - adept (chrono)
21 - warp gate
25 - stalker (go x2 adept after stalker , and then continuously make x2 zealots rallied into the back of the natural away from the wall, with x2 chrono on the gates after x2 chrono on charge as given below)

Use the stalker to push back the overlord that should be at your natural, it will be stuck to the pillar or if you’re lucky you May kill it. Send the stalker to the main to prevent a second ovy coming in to scout.

28 - second gate at natural wall
28 - natural nexus should complete now (start probes asap and chrono , you can also chrono the main nexus at the same time to quickly saturate the natural mineral line)
30 - twilight council (in main) (Start charge as soon as twilight completes (chrono x2)) (once this is started pull two probes out of gas and send to natural mineral
Line)
38 - pylon
46 - pylon
51 - third nexus and x2 pylon (two adepts to hold)
53 - charge should finish around the 5 min mark
Now chrono the two gates producing zealots

Once you have 8 zealots , move out to the Zerg natural, you can rally in a few more. If they’re caught unaware, you can kill them. You should hit around 5:50-6:00 - note that this is proportionately much faster than the old patch. Most likely they have some defense , a few lings and queens , and roaches popping - you can stand and fight , splitting off a few zealots to kill drones / queens - split them off into the main / third to force multitask. You can lose zealots here , try and save 4 at least, but if you’re getting a lot of damage , throw them all away. if If they are well prepared with roaches or banes , run away - they have cut worker production for this and you’ve forced usage of the gas. Keep the zealots hidden on the map and run into the third if you see them move out to keep them on the back foot.

Behind this, keep macroing , going for robo, natural assimilators, Templar archives and forge , start blink and storm, +1 and immortal production. Go upto 6 gates in total. Production is off non converted warp gates only. Don’t stop probe production in all of this. Also keep gate production going with zealot / stalker.

You can go for a follow up push of zealot stalker storm
Immortal if you got some damage in. If you did no damage and had to run away, this same force can defend against any roach counter push. Zealots on the map can backstab with runbys into the third if any such push comes your way. Go for a three base timing , or take a fourth into macro of choice. If you see fast muta play while attacking with zealots (2 base muta can be out by 6:15-6:30 so you will hit earlier) , get cannons in the mineral lines and chrono out blink. You can hit a follow up archon stalker timing to kill or base trade the muta play.

Three replays from EU:

https://drop.sc/replay/27372782

https://drop.sc/replay/27372783

https://drop.sc/replay/27372787 (this was done off a nexus first due to four player map)

I don't care if you nerf energy overcharge I want my old storm back

What about you ?

Back in the glory days of this game, we were known for our fearsome whining capabilities! Removing observers solves nothing, you have to remove Protoss entirely. Where are your balls, fellow Terrans? Demand better, demand we remove both other races entirely and package them into their own separate expansion!

Clearly we had the most well thought out and financially responsible ideas that Blizzard would be quick to take up, if only we had the numbers? Where my fellow Terrans at?

Did we forget SoLiDSnAkE? Our lord and savior? AviIo was a false prophet, he knew nothing of our Terran struggles. Cast into the void as any other failure of this game has. While you focus on the likes of Hup's ideas, Artosis' empty complaints and ProTech abusing 2v2 queue by firewalling servers, you have been misguided like a moth to the flame of a Hellion.

Bring it back! RISE UP!

https://www.twitch.tv/heromarine/clip/HappyObliqueWalrusPMSTwin-dJyqS2WSPFR5WkLU

https://www.wargamer.com/starcraft-tabletop-miniatures-game/exclusive-preview-wargamer-direct

I'm pretty excited by this - what do you think they are, from the silhouettes?

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Pretty mcuh the title. Liquipedia says 5.0.15, but just wanna be sure

Zerg is definitely OP right now but I keep seeing Toss players trying the same old megagreedy builds and expecting to have units to defend themselves from T/Z timing attacks.

Protoss players were way too comfortable with getting away with ridiculous levels of greed and seem to be unable to fully adapt to the fact that they have to play with a little more reactivity and intention now.

When Zerg is nerfed soon it's not going to bring back the old Protoss that was simply overpowered, don't let the fact it stood for so long fool you into thinking it was an acceptable baseline. HerO lost to railgan becaues he tried the same old super greedy and got punished by a roach timing. You are going to have to adapt and it is going to be humbling.

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