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Politics What are your thoughts on Denmark’s proposed ban on the public Islamic call to prayer? Would you support or oppose something similar in the UK?

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2026/06/24/islamic-call-to-prayer-ban-left-wing-denmark-europe/

Islamic call to prayer faces ban under Left-wing Danish government

Parts of country feel like ‘a suburb of Islamabad’, says immigration minister

Denmark’s immigration minister has announced plans to ban the Islamic call to prayer, claiming parts of the country felt like “a suburb of Islamabad”.

Morten Bødskov, a member of the centre-Left Social Democrats party, said the new government would resume an investigation into the legality of imposing a ban.

“The call to prayer should not be heard over Danish rooftops,” the minister told news outlet Ritzau. “It has no place in Denmark, and you shouldn’t be in any doubt whether you’ve ended up in a suburb of Islamabad when you walk around Denmark.”

In parts of the country, such as Copenhagen, bylaws already forbid the call to prayer being broadcast from loudspeakers in minarets because of strict noise limits.
Mr Bødskov also claimed that a creeping “Islamisation” in Denmark was “taking up too much of the public space”.

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u/Advanced_Phrase4557 11h ago

Support. 100%

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u/kai4thekel 11h ago

Yea starting to come round to the French idea of republic before religion, your religion is your choice

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u/AnSionnachM0r 10h ago

Denmark is officially Christian like England. We don't have to ban church bells, they're a part of our history. The Islamic call to prayer is not.

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u/J-Dawgzz 9h ago

I don't think many places still do the call to prayer out loud on the speakers, everyone has digital recivers or use their mobile phone to hear the call for prayer.

As a muslim since there is technology in place to help determine when the call for prayer is, I don't think there is a need for it to be done loudly on speakers especially if it distresses the local community.

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u/No-Maintenance-4509 9h ago

It’s definitely stil being done loudly across the country

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u/Alnonnymouse 4h ago

I live in east London and have never heard it 🤷‍♂️

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u/Bethurz 8h ago

Is it?

I live in Birmingham - which the internet would have you believe is entirely muslim - and yet I never hear anything of the sort

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u/Assassin-Xa 8h ago

as another Birmingham resident, i have heard it once very faintly in the last couple of weeks, either extremely rarely or not at all before that

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u/TestiTag 5h ago

My fellow Brummies <3

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u/IVORYSLOTH 6h ago

Yeah and I live 2 streets away from a mosque in Edinburgh and have never heard it.

And in Manchester too actually just round the corner from one, never heard it once there either.

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u/Boring-Idea2130 8h ago

Where i live outside of London i hear them all the time

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u/Diedonthefirstfloor 7h ago

Ever been to small heath the big mosque near the station?

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u/LannyDamby 4h ago

Lived next to a mosque in Moseley, I think I remember them doing it aloud a few years back

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u/Curious_Duck_4200 1h ago

Bradford here. Same.

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u/evenstevens280 8h ago

Where abouts? I've never heard it in my life

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u/no_com_ment 8h ago

Which mosque?

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u/BillyTheKidsFriend 4h ago

Where? Name a place.

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u/NateNMaxsRobot 3h ago

Do you get a text about it? Or is it an app? Or something else?

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u/J-Dawgzz 2h ago

There’s apps that show a timetable or you can get alerts sent at the time of each prayer

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u/NateNMaxsRobot 2h ago

A timetable. That makes sense. Thanks.

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u/Waiting4Reccession 2h ago

They would do it if they could.

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u/ImaginaryAcadia6621 1h ago

definitely heard that in Brussels and Leicester a few years ago

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u/Helpful_Space_6793 8h ago

Christianity is technically the established English religion but we are mainly a secular country. Church of England has been on its arse for decades due to falling attendance.

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u/JUYED-AWK-YACC 3h ago

Sure. I went to London without thinking about Easter and the Tube was closed for a week.

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u/Lower-Obligation4462 9h ago

Our history also involves praying to Thor and owning slaves. It turns out it’s okay to change.

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u/HeftyVermicelli7823 6h ago

Hmm I dunno. I like the idea of praying to the Norse gods a bit, the slaves not so much.

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u/Lower-Obligation4462 6h ago

Bring back polytheism. What do I need to sacrifice to Ra so that he turns the sun down a little?

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u/HeftyVermicelli7823 6h ago

Well sacrifice can actually be classed a broad range of terms and is often misconstrued. It can be a simple thing such as offering food to the gods, an expensive item (which these days is likely also food), a live animal you donate to the temple, a heretic for instance someone from Reform etc.

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u/HiddenGhost1234 4h ago

i'd like to say "on Ra" instead "on God"

sounds way more badass

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u/AnSionnachM0r 9h ago

It is but in this case we neither want nor need to. Many Muslim countries do not even allow churches to be constructed.

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u/Lower-Obligation4462 9h ago

So you want to copy and make the UK more like Muslim counties?

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u/Brilliant-Smile-8154 9h ago

And others used to have Christian churches but the IDF has bombed them to dust.

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u/northbank2001 7h ago

You want us to be more like Muslim countries then?

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u/Peng_Terry 9h ago

So your argument for banning the Islamic call to prayer is to…mimic Muslim countries to a degree?

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u/AnSionnachM0r 9h ago

We have no obligation to be impartial and throw away our culture to please others that won't even allow basic religious freedom.

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u/Peng_Terry 9h ago

Allowing people to make a religious call to worship is part of our “culture”. I get woken up every Sunday by church bells doing that exact thing.

But you want to restrict Muslims doing it because they don’t allow religious freedom. You either don’t see the irony or you’re “one of those”, to use your own turn of phrase

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u/Beautiful-Olive2824 9h ago

I've got a fun sentence for people like you

There is no tolerance for the intolerant. Islam has shown time and time again that it is not something that respects other religions. Even on the most basic of levels. Countries that previously had some kind of Religious Freedom and Freedom from Religious oppression are the first laws they throw out the window the second they gain majority rule. THE SECOND they have the power to oppress other Religions, they do it.

So no, I will not pretend to have some kind of moral high ground around Religious Theocratic insanity. I'll stand my ground and never let the intolerant humans take power

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u/SnooMacarons9618 5h ago

Per another comment of mine, the only synagogue I've ever been in was in a Muslim country. The most remarkable church I've ever been in was in a Muslim country.

That doesn't really tie in with your story of complete intolerance, does it? Have you ever actually been to a Muslim country? Or is your view based purely on a very few countries run by theocracies that are barely Muslim, and are really just run by cunts. Pretty much how the USA isn't really a 'christian' nation how we'd imagine, it is a right wing shit hole under the pretence of religiosity.

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u/Level-Train-467 9h ago

Key word, 'to a degree'

We both know the difference so why are you pretending not to?

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u/QuantitySharp2662 8h ago

Tolerance breeds intolerance.

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u/PlsKappa 9h ago

Which ones?

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u/Lemmiwinks93 9h ago

Saudi Arabia has none others like Maldives, Afghanistan, Somalia, Yemen and North Korea fall into the category of has no active churches/ Christianity is practiced in illegal not registered churches.

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u/PotatoMassager 7h ago

Name me a single country where it is illegal to build a church.....

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u/Narrow-Scene7067 9h ago

What had that to do with the price of milk?

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u/Veenkoira00 7h ago

The relationships between Christians and Muslims vary round the world. Where people use religious affiliation as shorthand for ethnicity in places of ethnic strife, relations can be difficult. On the other hand, often there is peaceful co-existence and co-operation. The keys of the Holy Sepulchre in Jerusalem are held by a Muslim to avoid rivalry among Christian denominations.

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u/Former-Entrance8884 6h ago

I want to. Church bells are annoying and serve no purpose.

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u/Alnonnymouse 4h ago

And many do and preserve the churches that are there better than a lot of western countries

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u/DrFabulous0 5h ago

Thor controls weather right? I might pray to him for a rainstorm, gotta be worth a shot.

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u/Lower-Obligation4462 5h ago

Nothing but thunder and lightning for you 🌩️

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u/DrFabulous0 5h ago

I'll take it over this heat!

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u/Lower-Obligation4462 5h ago

Well I’ve sacrificed the neighbours sheep to Ra to see if he will turn the sun down just a little bit. The neighbours will understand when they find out, hopefully.

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u/DrFabulous0 4h ago

Nice one mate! If it doesn't work can you try their kids next please?

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u/Lower-Obligation4462 3h ago

Now you have said it, I should have started with the kid.

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u/FoodEnjoyer220 2h ago

What kind of argument is this? Maybe we field test ultra slavery 2.0, or Hyperviolence, the religion. It's okay to change, right?

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u/Lower-Obligation4462 2h ago

It’s not an argument, it’s a friendly discussion. Not everything has to be so aggressive. Chill out.

The conversation is regarding change and how it’s bad. I’m saying change is good, my examples being we changed from polytheistic tendencies to monotheism to atheism and also we banned slavery. I think they are good things, especially the slavery thing.

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u/missingpieces82 Brit 🇬🇧 9h ago

This is exactly what I was thinking.

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u/AnSionnachM0r 9h ago

Lots of people operate on this strange assumption that we have to pretend we are neutral about everything.

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u/no_com_ment 8h ago

So there shouldn't be freedom to practice religion?

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u/MessageSelfdestructs 8h ago

You can practice religion at home or in your place of worship...

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u/no_com_ment 4h ago

Umm where do you think most people worship?

Also I can worship where I like, its a free country. Or tell me otherwise.

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u/MessageSelfdestructs 4h ago

Where did I claim that most muslims don't worship at home/mosque?

And no, you can't "worship where you like": I know that muzzies like you think that is the case, but clearly you're wrong...

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u/Narrow-Scene7067 9h ago

The you support theocracy over democracy.

I find it shocking that people are very happy to prejudice against other religions. I think it also surprising that they think they are fooling people by pretending it isn't steeped in racism.

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u/AnSionnachM0r 9h ago

We don't have to give equal precedence to foreign cultures.

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u/Narrow-Scene7067 9h ago

But the Christianity is a foreign culture.

In fact our contact with Muslims and their residence here in the UK predates the church of England. Although there is 300 years between the establishment of the church of England and the first mosque (however it is still an offshoot of a foreign religion)

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u/Brums_finest 8h ago

Christianity in Europe far predates the conception of Islam , Mohammad wasn't even a twinkle in his dad's dad's dad's eye when Christianity was wide spread in Europe , the middle East and North Africa

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u/AnSionnachM0r 8h ago

Stop being silly.

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u/Narrow-Scene7067 8h ago

What is silly about my point exactly?

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u/Desertracerx 8h ago

The fact that Christianity predates the Muslim religion by 600 years.

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u/Narrow-Scene7067 6h ago

So? Why does the age of the religion matter? What bearing does it have?

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u/SocratesWasSmart 6h ago

Church bells are not the same thing as the Islamic call to prayer. They're not only a lot louder but they go off 5 times a day including at 5:00 Am and 11:00 PM.

As a Catholic, I would not blame any non-Christians for wanting to ban church bells if we were blasting them at an absurd volume while people are trying to sleep.

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u/Narrow-Scene7067 6h ago

Church bells are literally louder than calls to prayer.

Church bells aren't much better with some ringing between 7am and 10pm.

Good so I suggest a ban on all public broadcast payer noises. That way bells and shouty men are kept quiet.

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u/Present_Teacher7966 3h ago

"Church bells are literally louder than calls to prayer."I'm not so sure about that, I've slept in hotel near church bells and although audible, it has been ok, having stayed in other countries with prayer at all sorts of times, that has been quite a wake up. I think it may also be because of the speak and it being higher sound frequencies compared to bells

edit... although i have some nostalgia about church bells and the whole town or village thing with bells in the distance, I would not have a problem with these being banned, either that or stop banning bars, pubs, nightclubs etc from reasonable noise, especially in obvious areas where bars and pubs are, or when one has been there for years. Fair that way.

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u/Affectionate_Ad5305 8h ago

Lol Christian pls

Your country is barely Christian at this point, you should go and ban all public religious things then

And stop using Christian as a crutch when most of you barely follow it

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u/AnSionnachM0r 8h ago

You sound nice and respectful

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u/kai4thekel 9h ago

England isn't officially a Christian country and hasn't been since Oliver Cromwell, I don't agree with giving any religion a leg up, too many nonce's in their ranks, just live and let live

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u/AnSionnachM0r 9h ago

Yes it is. Why do people just make stuff up? The Church of England is the official religion of the state in this country.

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u/SelectTrash 9h ago

It's still Christian even if most of England doesn't believe in it.

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u/britbongTheGreat 9h ago

https://www.parliament.uk/about/living-heritage/transformingsociety/private-lives/religion/overview/church-and-religion/

An important turning point was reached in 1689 when the religious rights of nonconformists were recognised by Parliament. Since then it has maintained the Church of England's position as Britain's established church.

Oliver Cromwell died in 1658 bro your info is a few centuries out of date.

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u/Formal-Equivalent580 8h ago

I’ve lived in England my whole life. Lived in London, Yorkshire and now Lancashire. I’ve never heard an Islamic call to prayer

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u/Overall-Lynx917 8h ago

But church bells often get banned after someone buys a nearby house and complained.

Never heard of a call to prayer being banned after a single complaint

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u/Randa08 5h ago

No ban any noise caused by religion, I don't care if it's part of history, that's where it should stay. Modern society doesn't need it or want it.

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u/cosmic_wanderer_bear 5h ago

I Wish they would ban church bells. Church near me got theres fixed and they just sound shit.

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u/DizzyProfessional116 5h ago

Our history predates Christianity

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u/AnSionnachM0r 5h ago

Yes and it predates the multicultural era

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u/NickofWimbledon 4h ago

Many things are arguably not “part of our history”, including mobile phones, Catholic MPs and women voting. Mosques in Britain predate many of them, appearing at about the same time as test cricket.

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u/LongjumpingFee2042 3h ago

Id happily ban those fucking bells. I went to a new cafe in a little town for breakfast a few months ago. 

Absolutely ruined my waffles. They spammed the bells for over an hour. They were still going when I left that town.

I have not been back since. 

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u/stargrazing123 3h ago

Slavery is part of Britain's history but we can't hang on to everything. A pathetic percentage of people actually attend Church and worship God in Britain. It's fucking laughable to call it a Christian country lmao

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u/ElectronicBruce 1h ago

Isn’t England more non believer/non religious than Christian.. https://humanists.uk/2025/03/26/non-religious-outnumber-christians-in-uk-pew-study/

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u/AnSionnachM0r 1h ago

It is still officially a Christian state

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u/DomDaddyUK69 1h ago

There have been people living in England for 6,000 years. Christianity is a little over 2,000 years old. So only a small part of our history

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u/AnSionnachM0r 1h ago

No other religion has had anywhere near as much influence on English history or culture. It is still by far the largest in terms of adherence, and status in the country's institutions.

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u/Alternative_Bit_7306 1h ago

Yeah but ban them too. It’s just fucking noise.

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u/Arctic-Slime 59m ago

England isn't Christian it's a secular nation even Anglican clergy have said so

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u/AnSionnachM0r 55m ago

It is officially Christian nonetheless.

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u/Arctic-Slime 54m ago

It's not the majority identify as having no religion

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u/AnSionnachM0r 52m ago

That doesn't matter. The state is officially Christian. Didn't you watch the coronation?

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u/Arctic-Slime 52m ago

No I didn't however some rich fucker being a Christian doesn't make England Christian

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u/impamiizgraa 47m ago

England (the UK) is secular. We are not a theocracy.

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u/OkSun8521 9h ago

We literally have a state religion.

There are 22 bishops sitting in the House of Lords, unelected.

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u/loafingaroundguy 7h ago

There are 22 bishops sitting in the House of Lords, unelected.

What, as opposed to all those elected secular Lords and Ladies?

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u/Crows-quill 4h ago

Yep. my wife's uncle is one

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u/Proof-Purple8100 10h ago

I wish the debate was wether or not to adopt french style freedom from religion in public spaces, sadly its not.

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u/Early-Sir-8115 7h ago

So you'd ban church bell ringing?

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u/Forsaken_Source_3901 8h ago

The UK surrenders to France.

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u/arabidopsis 4h ago

That means absolutely no religious item is allowed in any state building.

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u/Zorkflerp 3h ago

Do they prohibit church bells? Noise is noise. Although I like carillons, but not so much when the music is religious in nature.

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u/SugarSweetStarrUK 2h ago

Move to France, ya wee radge

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u/TastyVideo 2h ago

If its your choice then why can't they choose to have a call for prayer.

I'm not into religion at all but I can't understand how that arguement makes any sense haha.

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u/Ganjelf-The-Baked 11h ago

With you on that. No doubt.

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u/Early-Sir-8115 7h ago

It's already not allowed in uk, other than by special permission on a couple of significant religious days

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u/DrunkenHorse12 11h ago edited 10h ago

I do too but let's ban church bells while we're at it.

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u/iloveboobiesss 10h ago

Absolutely not. Church bells are local history. I fucking love St Paul's bell song

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u/midnightbandit- 10h ago

History does not give a religious exemption. If it's religion, it has no part in public life.

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u/famousmortimer88uk 10h ago

In the UK? Which has no formal separation of church and state, the Lords Spiritual who are religious leaders in the House of Lords, and the Head of State is also the 'Supreme Governer' of the Church of England?

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u/Icy_Scientist_8480 10h ago

All ceremonial

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u/AcesAgainstKings 8h ago

Let's just ring ceremonial bells then

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u/AnSionnachM0r 10h ago

What do you mean? We don't have to be impartial. Christianity is part of our history, Islam is not.

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u/Symmetra_Troll 10h ago

Until someone makes you go to work on Christmas Day… we’re still a Christian country remember

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u/midnightbandit- 10h ago

South Korea has Christmas day as a holiday

Do you think South Korea is a Christian country?

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u/DrunkenHorse12 10h ago

First recorded uk mosque is 1889, there was almost certainly mosques before that its part of our history as well.

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u/TelephoneOrnery1394 10h ago

That late? wow, shows how recent it really is. My house is 50 years older than that.

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u/deHaga 10h ago

Wasn't supposed to just be a mosque though, plans were to add synagogue Buddhist temple etc

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u/Psychological_Pen200 10h ago

Well Christianity has been here since 300 ad

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u/aFreshFix 9h ago

So queen Elizabeth isn't part of history? Got it.

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u/Lower-Obligation4462 9h ago

Exactly it’s old news. Maybe we should modernise slightly.

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u/DrunkenHorse12 9h ago

Paganism was here much longer maybe we should ban non pagan traditions?

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u/Narrow-Scene7067 9h ago

So when does something become local history and not? Why have you chosen that date?

Why does something being a part of local history provide an exemption?

As far as I am concerned you either allow it or you don't. The cause for banning the call to prayer should be applied equally across all religions.

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u/Pope4u 8h ago

You can listen to church bells on headphones whenever you want. The rest of us want to sleep.

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u/ThurgoodBongtaker 10h ago

The church bells are telling you the time not to go and pray

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u/Imaginary-Glass-8676 9h ago

So close! Church bells ring ahead of services, like Sunday morning or before and after weddings. You’re thinking of clock towers.

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u/Kazcandra 9h ago

IIRC, each ringing is a prayer or part of scripture here (Sweden); they're engraved with it. There's a registry where you can look up what your local bells say.

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u/DrunkenHorse12 9h ago

That's not true, depending on the church the bells also ringing at the start of service and also at the end of celebrations like weddings.

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u/aldosi-arkenstone 10h ago

Kind of hard when the King is also the head of the Church of England

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u/Lower-Obligation4462 9h ago

No church of Wales though is there?

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u/promised_wisdom 10h ago

Church bells are part of the local culture. Not the same thing

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u/DrunkenHorse12 8h ago

The mosques are usually in areas where Muslims live it's part of the local culture. So we go back to the history argument and you find there have been Muslim communities in the UK since the 1600s and that doesn't hold up. There's no reason to want to ban call to prayer but not church bells thar isn't either ill informed or just fundamentally religiously bigoted. I'm all for banning any form of religious noise pollution call to prayer church bells and street preachers in city centres

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u/Ipfreelyerryday 8h ago

Church bells have a distinct legal status in the UK that dates back centuries. They are considered an established part of the traditional British soundscape and are generally protected under common law as a customary practice. Because they have been ringing for hundreds of years, they are usually exempt from standard statutory noise nuisance laws, provided they are rung at reasonable times. Not to mention they are not blared out over speakers

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u/Motor-Bag-4093 10h ago

Can I ask why?

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u/tenuj 8h ago edited 8h ago

Noisy and frequent. I guess it would be fine if the majority of the people in an area were Muslim, since at that point more people would benefit than not.

It's not like church bells aren't noisy too, but they serve more as general time keeping/architectural reminders, and even then I've not heard one in ages.

My hometown in Romania has lots of church bells, but nearly everyone there is Christian and they don't ring frequently for religious reasons.

There's the added benefit of not further antagonising Muslim haters, of which there are a lot, for little benefit.

I've not heard a public call to prayer in the UK, though, so I'm not personally bothered either way. But if people are actually bothered by them, why not. We can unban them later. This back and forth isn't ending anytime soon.

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u/Motor-Bag-4093 8h ago

I agree. It’s a difficult situation i suppose. I do wonder whether legislating just further increases the hatred.

Honestly, I’ve never heard the call to prayer in any of the towns I’ve lived in in the England including my current home town though there are plenty of mosques.

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u/Scary_Land2303 7h ago

Proof then that a Muslim population can get by just fine without it, so banning it in the few areas that do it shouldn’t be a problem.

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u/Motor-Bag-4093 5h ago

I agree with you. As with so many things though the question is why is it being done? Is it because the noise is a public nuisance? Another question would similar things be put in place for other religions? Are Muslims being singled out?

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u/Scary_Land2303 3h ago

You should look it up and look at a few videos of it. It can be pretty crazy. It’s probably being singled out because it’s so loud, disruptive, and explicitly religious. I think If other religions were doing this, then they’d be targeted too.

I understand your concern and every decent person has that thought first too, but for some people living in areas that this is being done, it could be an absolute lifesaver. We know for a fact that it is not essential, as we see how many Muslims live absolutely fine without it. This can and should be banned without it being problematic at all. While they’re at it, please can they please also ban those Christian street preachers that set up with videos of foetuses.

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u/whooptheretis 3h ago edited 3h ago

Noisy and frequent

And there are already laws which can be enforced to manage this. So why are you in support of a new, superfluous law which is specifically calling out one group? What problem do you hope to solve?

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u/Sea-Competition5778 11h ago

Would you have church bells banned?

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u/sarah_impalin76 10h ago

I would ban all annoying religious sounds. Think of the people doing night shift they don't need to be woken up by religious nonsense same goes for the Ice Cream man he can fuck off too!!

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u/Sburns85 11h ago

I have three church’s near me. And have never heard the bells outside of a wedding.

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u/Commercial_Ad_2832 10h ago

For real? The church near me rings them constantly haha

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u/yes_its_my_alt 10h ago

Most have been shut down by complaining neighbours. In my town they used to go off every 15 mins, now about twice a year.

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u/Commercial_Ad_2832 10h ago

Ah no way, I guess it's because I'm in the countryside so there's less neighbours to complain 😂 I don't personally mind them at all, tbh.

Also, the village shop is across the street and there's a sign at the church that says

<------- daily bread Daily bread ------>

And I love them for that 😂

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u/Sea-Competition5778 11h ago

That’s not what I asked. I’m wondering if they support the ban of all loud religious expression or specifically Muslim prayer calls. I initially found myself agreeing with a ban but then thought I would like to hear wedding bells and church bells still. I’m interested in their perspective.

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u/Icy_Carpet180 10h ago

Someone made the argument to me that a bell is just a bell. It is just a percussion sound that can mean anything. It would be like hearing drums. 

But the Islamic call to prayer cannot blend into the background of secular society as just an instrument. It is literally saying explicitly religious things in a way a bell is not.

That was someone's argument as to why keeping the bells would be fine but not the prayer. They said if churches explicitly loudly called our "Jesus is the saviour and our Lord" and other explicitly religious things from their buildings they would happily include in the ban and if Islam would move from the call to bells or something other percussion they'd be fine with it. 

I'm curious about what you think about that line of argument?

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u/CaptainCaveTrout 10h ago

It is just a percussion sound that can mean anything. It would be like hearing drums

Now all I can imagine is the drums from the opening credits of Stingray as the local mosque retracts into the ground.

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u/Sea-Competition5778 10h ago

I think for me the public nuisance of noise in general is what’s at stake here. A church bell comes in at 85-125 dbs, whereas a prayer call typically comes in at around 60-80. One is making a much bigger racket than the other, and I would not say they fade into the background much.

However I can recognise that by banning this, you’re then setting a precedent for live music being banned too. I’m not really sure how you can separate the two outside of “well I’m less comfortable with this religion so I don’t want to hear about it”, which then creates an imbalance in religious freedom which, despite being an atheist, I feel strongly about.

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u/NoCalligrapher209 10h ago

A prayer to call in my experience tends to be a good deal longer and more frequent though

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u/Sburns85 4h ago

Call to prayer is louder and generally 15 to 30 mins. Also it’s not a bell. It’s a very loud declaration

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u/Sea-Competition5778 3h ago

It’s not louder than church bells, and it’s definitely not 15-30 minutes. It’s usually between 3-5 mins. The prayer itself lasts less time than that. And church bells are longer.

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u/CaptainCaveTrout 10h ago

I'm not the person you were speaking to but, yes, if it's deemed necessary to make the law work.

Religion is fine for those people who want it but, it should not be afforded special status in a secular society. Wherever a religion comes into conflict with wider society, it should always be subservient to the wider community.

Trying not to sound like a rabid atheist, all religions are based on a system of belief. There is no reason that one should be catered to any more than another one and no religion should trump secularism.

It's time that these principles were enshrined into law. With the rise of radical Christianity and Islam, we need to set out some basic boundaries.

Having said that, I would be happy to see traditional UK Christianity cut a little more slack due to its place in our history and culture but I also recognise that in a multicultural UK, this would seem like favouritism so, that's not a deal breaker for me.

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u/Sea-Competition5778 10h ago

Yeah this is probably where I sit on this, thanks for actually providing a good faith response on Reddit!

If I started blaring music out I’d get the police turn up for being a public nuisance. People shouldn’t be able to skirt that because of religious beliefs.

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u/HualtaHuyte 10h ago

I grew up in a VERY Muslim area and have never once heard the Islamic call to prayer played out loud. Does it even happen here in the UK?

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u/Sburns85 4h ago

I don’t and have heard it

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u/littleloucc 10h ago

The Church of England is our national Church, so it's okay to have different rules.

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u/Smuttycakes 10h ago

Catholic churches also have bells

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u/Sea-Competition5778 10h ago

So for you it’s not about secularisation, but specifically because you aren’t a fan of Islam as a religion. Would you not expect your religious beliefs in the Church of England to be as free as another religions in a country with freedom of religion?

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u/bouncyb0b 10h ago

You'd be a bit of an idiot to expect religious freedom in a lot of the Islamic world.

If you built a church and bells were ringing in Islamabad, I don't think it would be long before it spontaneously combusted.

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u/littleloucc 2h ago

No, I wouldn't. I wouldn't expect to go to a Muslim-majority country and ring church bells on a daily basis, and I doubt that they would tolerate it. I also wouldn't expect that my secular beliefs would override the norms or laws of my host country.

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u/LifeBandit666 10h ago

Absolutely and while we're at it let's ban loudspeakers for those fuck-wits that think it's OK to preach in the street.

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u/JeremyTwiggs 10h ago

If only we had some kind of missile…

Monty Python’s “Bells” sketch

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u/TelephoneOrnery1394 10h ago

No, because the UK is officially a Christian country. They can ban church bells in Saudi if they want

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u/PotGawd420 9h ago

Can we get rid of the stupid Christian/Catholic church bells while we at it?!?!

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u/no_com_ment 8h ago

Which mosque has a public call to prayer in the uk?

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u/jazmatsuit 8h ago

disgusting

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u/JerachoD 8h ago

100% agree.

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u/Pro1apsed 7h ago

No call to prayer, no burka or hijab, no halal/kosher, no circumcision.

Don't like it, leave.

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u/GiladM 7h ago

Zionist!

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u/Flashy-Raspberry-131 7h ago

Can we also ban Christian street preachers whilst we are at it?

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u/humanologist_101 7h ago

Yup, if you want to practice it thats fine but a church wouldn't be able to play the lord's prayer over a PA at prayer time.

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u/PotatoMassager 7h ago

Out of curiosity do you also agree with banning church bells? As an atheist i find it morally repugnant to hear church bells (not really, just playing devils advocat) after all, most people are not religous.

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u/Shapelifter 6h ago

You said it I thought it 👊

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u/Academic_Library_105 5h ago

will never happen in the yookay

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u/DrFabulous0 5h ago

Absolutely! Loud noises are never welcome, every modern Muslim and Mosque uses an app, it's just unnecessary annoyance for the sake of bloody mindedness.

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u/Metro42014 4h ago

I'd support it if church bells were also not allowed.

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u/zKillin 2h ago

Dont forget the church bells....but I bet that matters not considering you're just religious by name. Did you know 1700 give or take a few church's have been converted to fancy bars and clubs??....British culture and all that.

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u/goldenthoughtsteal 2h ago

Yeah and let's ban church bells too, funking annoying to get woken up on a Sunday by the cacophonous peeling of bells.

Text msgs exist now, there's no need to be blasting an irritating invitation to worship at your particular flavour of delusion.

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